27
   

The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:20 pm
@BillRM,
You're an idiot on this topic! No doubt in my mind.

Your advocacy for a fraud like Zimmerman speaks more about you than it does about Zimmerman. Your rationalizations to support this killer is not only shameful but without any sense of justice for black kids.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Sorry but the facts are the facts and a jury who look at those facts found Zimmerman innocent.

Hell the first prosecutor who looks at the facts decided that there was no valid case again Zimmerman.

Zimmerman was a victim of an attacked by a young hoodlum that picked the wrong person to assaulted and it cost the young hoodlum his life.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:11 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry but the facts are the facts and a jury who look at those facts found Zimmerman innocent.

No, they did not find him "innocent". And your continuing to assert that untruth makes you a bold faced liar as well as a fool who thinks he can peddle BS.

On the first vote taken by the jury, 3 of the 6 voted to convict--1 for second degree murder, and 2 for manslaughter--so this was no slam dunk case that lacked evidence.

Zimmerman was acquitted mainly because the defense convinced the jury he might have acted in self-defense. That's all the flawed and shooter-favorable self-defense laws in Florida require, and it's hardly a finding of innocence.

And Zimmerman was not the "victim of an attack"--he racially profiled and stalked his victim, with animus, and intentionally brought about a provocative encounter without ever identifying himself, or his motives, to his victim, a teen who was minding his own business until Zimmerman began recklessly pursuing him, and without legitimate reason to do so.

And the jury rendered no decision regarding Trayvon Martin, they knew next to nothing about Trayvon Martin, and they could not know whether he had reacted in self-defense, when finally confronted by the man who had been stalking him in the dark, because Zimmerman's bullet silenced him as a witness. The only issue they had to consider was whether Zimmerman pulled the trigger because he was in fear of grave bodily harm--whether he pulled the trigger because he wanted to, or whether he pulled it because he felt he had to. The jury simply gave Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt, regarding self-defense, as required by Florida law.

Zimmerman was not the victim--Zimmerman was clearly the provocateur. And he has continued to provoke violent and menacing incidents with others since his acquittal. His behavior patterns have been consistent, both before and after he killed Trayvon Martin.

He needlessly killed an unarmed child, in an encounter that he engineered, for his own personal reasons, and that tragic death was totally avoidable.

The real thug and hoodlum is George Zimmerman. He simply got away with murder--the murder of an innocent unarmed child. That's nothing to be proud of, let alone something to be exploited, by him, for financial profit. The more this man reveals about himself, the more despicable he becomes.


cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:20 pm
@firefly,
We've been down this road many times before, and I'm tired of repeating ad nauseam the same crap that Bill seems to believe. He's a sick man that I have put on Ignore. I don't need to convince him that he's a ******* liar and moron; he proves it on his own.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well I am assuming you are trying to sell the theory that the six women that was the jury members are also are ******* liars and morons and of course racists.

Sad that you are not willing to see the world as it happen to be not as you decided it must be.

Once more Zimmerman was a victim of an assault by Trayvon.
0 Replies
 
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:53 pm
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/zim-not-guilty_zpsde3badb8.jpg~original

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/George_Zimmerman_zps4b3e700e.jpg~original
0 Replies
 
firefly
 
  0  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My heart goes out to Trayvon Martin's parents on what would have been their son's 19th birthday.

How additionally difficult for them it must be to deal with the fact that George Zimmerman tried to use the occasion of their son's birthday to shift media attention to himself and to consider promoting himself as a "celebrity" for causing the needless death of their son, and trying to profit from this notoriety.

Oh BillRM's an idiot, he's absolutely incapable of absorbing new information, or integrating conflicting information. It's like talking to a rock. Laughing He's the original, "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind's already made up." Laughing
He's way out of his league in any sort of intelligent discussion that actually requires the ability to think. I never expect him to be able to think, or to be able to contribute to an intelligent discussion, so that seriously comprises his ability to aggravate me. Laughing


BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:23 pm
@firefly,
Right an Zimmerman was a white KKK member who just hated and fear blacks and in cold blood gun down an innocent child and the jury was all racists and the first prosecutor was a racist also.

Too damn bad that Trayvon parents did not do a better job of raising their son and as far as $$$$$ are concern Trayvon parents trade mark sayings to get their cuts out of the t-shirt sales at the time.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:32 pm
@BillRM,
Boy are you a deep thinker. Laughing

Most of the issues in this case have gone right over your head. Laughing

Go talk about guns, that's simple, and concrete enough, for even you to handle. Laughing
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:33 pm
There's a program on msnbc about "fair trials" in the US. Simply stated, there isn't any such thing as "fair trials." Money has much to do with how one is found guilty or not guilty.
Advocate
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:50 pm
Z lucked out in getting a reasonably intelligent jury. He deserved his acquital.
0 Replies
 
coldjoint
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
program on msnbc


Enough said. Laughing
0 Replies
 
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:27 pm
George Zimmerman seems to have an awfully hard time remaining law abiding.

It turns out that, with his allegedly "original oil paintings", Zimmerman has been violating copyright laws. He transfers photos to a canvas, then paints over the photo image in a paint-by-numbers fashion, adds a few words of text, and claims he has produced an "original" work of art, which he then tries to sell. Except Zimmerman's been doing with this with copyrighted photos, and those holding the copyright aren't happy about that.

The latest party to complain is the Associated Press, regarding Zimmerman's painting of Angela Corey.
Quote:
AP tries to block sale of George Zimmerman painting
Mercury News wire services
Posted: 01/27/2014

ORLANDO, Fla.—The Associated Press has demanded that George Zimmerman halt the sale of one of his paintings because the news agency says it directly copies an AP photo.

Zimmerman's painting depicts Jacksonville-based prosecutor Angela Corey holding her thumb and fingers together. An apparently made-up quote Zimmerman added to the piece reads, "I have this much respect for the American judicial system." Corey's office prosecuted Zimmerman for the 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder last summer.

Zimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., posted an image of the painting Wednesday on Twitter and tweeted a day later that they were in negotiations with possible buyers.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site333/2014/0124/20140124__USZimmermanArtwork~1_400.jpg
This combination image shows an Associated Press photo, top, of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, taken in Jacksonville, Fla., on April 11, 2012, and a painting, bottom, by George Zimmerman, titled "Angie." ((AP Photo/Rick Wilson))

A letter with the AP's demands said that Zimmerman's painting was a direct copy of an AP photo taken at the April 2012 news conference where Corey announced Zimmerman would be charged with murder. It was taken for the AP by freelancer Rick Wilson. The news cooperative asked that any sale be blocked—and that, if there has been a sale, that the AP be paid damages.

The AP sent the letter to Jayne Weintraub, one of a handful of attorneys who has recently represented Zimmerman. Weintraub said she no longer represents Zimmerman but said she will forward the letter to him.

"George Zimmerman clearly directly copied an AP photo to create his painting of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey," AP spokesman Paul Colford said in a written statement.

Zimmerman sold another painting on eBay last month, with a winning bid of $100,099.99.

George Zimmerman's exact whereabouts are unknown, and an email address and phone number for him could not be found. His brother, who has frequently served as his spokesman, did not immediately respond to an email.

On Twitter, George Zimmerman wrote Friday evening: "No worries AP, I'll just take whatever U sue me for off your tab when I'm done suing you :-) Or... I could put out how much U offered me 2.."

Responding to Zimmerman's tweet, Colford, the AP spokesman, said: "We don't know what he's talking about."

Martin's fatal shooting sparked a nationwide debate about race and self-defense. Zimmerman was accused of racially profiling Martin and said he shot the teen to protect himself.

Artist Shepard Fairey got in a legal dispute with the AP after he used an AP photo in his famous Barack Obama "HOPE" poster. Fairey sued the AP in an effort to get a court declaration that he did not violate AP's copyrights when he made the Obama image. The AP countersued, saying the uncredited, uncompensated use of its picture both violated copyright laws and was a threat to journalism.

Claims between the news agency and Fairey were settled in 2011, with Fairey agreeing to pay the AP $1.6 million.

-- Associated Press
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25000796/ap-tries-block-sale-george-zimmerman-painting


The photographer, Rick Wilson, has also retained a lawyer and he told the Orlando Sentinel that Zimmerman can expect legal action in conjunction with the AP if he continues to use the image.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:34 pm
@firefly,
That's about his speed; break the laws and think he can get away with anything after the Trayvon trial.
Romeo Fabulini
 
  -1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 12:01 am
As his head was being slammed into the cement time and time again, this nightmarish picture is something like what poor George saw as he began slipping into unconsciousness, so in a last desperate attempt at self-defence he was just able to pull his gun and fire a single shot-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/black-mugger_zpse94d2ac9.jpg~original
0 Replies
 
firefly
 
  0  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 02:02 am
@cicerone imposter,
Well, if he tries to sell that painting--which appears clearly copied from an AP photo--he may do something he can't get away with, or talk himself out of.

The artist who copied an AP photo of Obama to make the iconic Hope poster, wound up paying the AP $1.6 million, in addition to receiving a $25,000 fine.

If all he can do is produce computerized paint-by-numbers versions of other people's photos, Zimmerman's career as an "artist" may be very short-lived. Laughing

Did you know they call this sort of stuff, like Zimmerman's paintings, "murderabelia".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murderabilia

There's currently a Web site that's just begun selling clothing and purses that belonged to Casey Anthony.
http://www.boston.com/news/source/2014/01/website_selling_casey_anthonys_murderabilia.html

The only difference with Zimmerman and Anthony, from the usual murderabelia, is that these two were acquitted--although, in Zimmerman's case, there is no question that he did kill someone, and, despite the legal verdict, many feel it was an act of murder.

I'd wonder about the kinds of people attracted to collecting things produced by, or owned by, murderers, even the murderers who've gotten acquitted.
0 Replies
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 02:19 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
George Zimmerman seems to have an awfully hard time remaining law abiding.
Other than babies, no one is law abiding.
Its almost IMPOSSIBLE.
0 Replies
 
BillRM
 
  2  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 04:58 am
@firefly,
The issue was simple as simple could be the man was jumped by a young hoodlum who got annoy at being follow on public streets to the point that the man was placed in fear of his very life and needed to used deadly force in self defense.

IE as a jury did agree with me a clear case of justified homicide.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 06:16 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That's about his speed; break the laws and think he can get away with anything after the Trayvon trial.


LOL how silly you are making yourself out to be a person found speeding two times once not even getting a ticket is a reflection that his morals are so low that he likely could be a killer.

So far he been found guilty of one speeding ticket!!!!!!!!!!

Copy rights laws you got to be kidding me as an art work base on a copyright picture even is not completely settle law as far as I know and if so that is a civil tort in any case.

You and Firefly need to go far far out to find something to attack the victim with.

Too bad Zimmerman was not a female that Trayvon had try to rape instead of kill then it would not be PC to be attacking the victim.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 11:08 am
@BillRM,
My neg 5 on the old vote count one must wonder if people are once more making up phony accounts...........
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

 
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.36 seconds on 07/08/2025 at 05:24:45