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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 09:02 pm
@BillRM,
From MerucyNews.com.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23535125/zimmerman-prosecutors-want-admit-his-five-prior-911

Quote:
Zimmerman prosecutors want to admit his five prior 911 calls about black suspicious characters
By Kyle Hightower and Mike Schneider

Associated Press


From patterico.com
Quote:
[S]tarting in August of 2011, Zimmerman’s calls took on a decidedly different note. He reported:

3 August 2011: “[a] black male last seen wearing a white tank top and black shorts,” who he “believes … is involved in recent [burglaries]“
6 August 2011: “two black males … in their teens”
23 September 2011: yet another “open garage door,” but specifies reason for calling is “neighborhood watch [meeting] last night”
1 October 2011: “two black males … 20 – 30 [years old] in Chevy [possibly] Impala at the gate of the community,” about whom Zimmerman’s concerned because he “does not recognize [the subjects] or [vehicle] and is concerned due to recent burglaries”
29 January 2012: children “running and playing in the street”
2 February 2012: “[black male last seen wearing] black leather jacket, black hat, printed PJ pants [who] keeps going to [the same] location”


From breakingdown.com
Quote:
George Zimmerman Once Called Police on a 7 Year Old Black Boy
BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 09:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You said all repeat all his calls concern black men not the last five calls but all of his calls while he was acting as a crime watch member.

Come on not a few calls during a period where blacks teens was being found to be breaking into homes in the area.

Quote:


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today.

At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood.

In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data.

One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman's front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered.

But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. Shellie was home most days, taking online courses towards certification as a registered nurse.

On August 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy's bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically.

"I said, 'What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!'" she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors.

Police arrived just as the burglars - who had been trying to disconnect the couple's television - fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police.

After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open.

cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 09:44 pm
@BillRM,
I didn't say "all his calls." You're a bloody idiot! I've provided enough evidence for the five calls he made to the police that were about blacks.

The "children running and playing in the street" belongs on the laugher curve.

You, of coarse, wouldn't know the difference.

Instead of your challenge against Zimmerman for reporting a 7 year old black kid speaks volumes about where your heads at; up your arse!

Here's what I did say, "Anyone who calls the police 100% of the time to report blacks for just walking is racial profiling." Zimmerman's "suspessions" are based on his bigotry - or racial profiling.

As posted earlier,
Quote:
George Zimmerman Once Called Police on a 7 Year Old Black Boy.


You'll never 'get it.' You're just too stupid!

Quit making a bigger fool of yourself - if that's possible.
firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 09:56 pm
@BillRM,
None of that means that every black teen, just walking around, talking on a cell phone, should be regarded as "suspicious". Because some burglaries were committed by blacks doesn't mean all blacks are burglars or potential burglars.

You don't know whether someone is a "would-be burglar" unless they've at least actually been observed tried to break into a house--and it seems like a lot of this "would be burglar", and the "house-casing" business, was rumor--if only 8 burglaries were reported to the police.

The best deterrent for those residents, if they were concerned about burglaries, would have been to get burglar alarms, and post a sign indicating they had one.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 09:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I didn't say "all his calls." You're a bloody idiot!


You sure the hell did my friend.

Quote:
Instead of your challenge against Zimmerman for reporting a 7 year old black kid speaks volumes about where your heads at; up your arse!


So he should not be concern about the welfare of a very young child playing in the streets with out any adults being around?

Hell one of my Grandkids figure out how to unlocked the front door and went for a walk and other adults found him and call the police just as his parents realize he was not in the home.
firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:04 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
So he should not be concern about the welfare of a very young child playing in the streets with out any adults around

It was a private gated community, a low traffic/slow traffic area. Why shouldn't a 7 year old be able to play outside with no adults around?

You didn't play outside by yourself when you were 7? I did. I lived on a dead-end street, and that made it a pretty safe place to play. I also walked back and forth to school by myself when I was 7, and the school was not exactly closeby.

Why did Zimmerman call the police about that child? Why didn't he just ask him where his mother was, or go speak to the mother if he was concerned.

Zimmerman didn't have to call the police about Martin either, he could just have driven over, when he first spotted him, and asked him if he needed any help, or was lost. Then he would have found out Martin was a house guest there, and he would have continued driving to Target.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:10 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
I lived on a dead-end street


A product of your environment, I see.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I didn't say "all his calls." You're a bloody idiot! I've provided enough evidence for the five calls he made to the police that were about blacks.


Liar liar liar.........



Quote:
Tue 17 Dec, 2013 11:47 pm • Post: # 5,523,972 • NextView Profile
@coldjoint,
The idiot is you! Anyone who calls the police 100% of the time to report blacks for just walking is racial profiling. I'm sure you don't know the term, but it's common knowledge for the majority of decent people.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:18 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Anyone who calls the police 100% of the time to report blacks for just walking is racial profiling


What grade level did you graduate from?
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
What grade level did you graduate from?


So you are going to claimed that a 100 percents of his calls does not mean all of the his calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:25 pm
@BillRM,
Learn English; I'm not your teacher.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 10:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
LOL so a hundred percents of something is not all of something in your logical system..............

I love it as you seems to be floating around in your own irrational universe.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 11:51 pm
@BillRM,
You need to understand English before you can criticize anyone about how you interpret sentences.

Your ability to skip over "that something" proves your ignorance about the English language.
BillRM
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 04:40 am
@cicerone imposter,
Right fool do you think that you can sell the comment that a 100 percents of the time the calls concern blacks can be viewed as anything else but that all calls concern blacks in English or any other language for that matter?????!!!???

You screwed up and was found out and instead of being bright enough to just admit that fact you are trying to do what?

Poor CI you just had been found out that you are not perfect no matter how must you had claimed that in all of your 80,000 posts you had never never made a claim that you could not back up!!!!!!!!!

I love it that you are now revealing the fact that you can not admit human error but instead are trying to wave your hands in the air to make the error disappear and not even David Copperfield could have this disappear.

If you had not been such a damn jerk on this thread I would even feel sorry for you.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 05:03 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
CNN Art Critic Calls Zimmerman Painting ‘Psychotic,’ Compares Him with Manson and Gacy
by Tommy Christopher
December 18th, 2013

Neighborhood watchman-turned-painter George Zimmerman is headed for a big payday, but instead of being the toast of the art world, he’s getting roasted over his initial effort, a flag-themed homage to Picasso, stock photography, and concrete poetry. On CNN’s New Day Wednesday morning, host Chris Cuomo tapped the expertise of New York Magazine art critic Jerry Saltz, who blasted Zimmerman’s effort, and was beside himself at the thought that the “travesty” puts Zimmerman in the price range of artists like Pablo Picasso, Andy Warhol, and Roy Lichtenstein.

Bidding on Zimmerman’s painting now stands at $110,100.00 on eBay, despite the revelation that the piece, entitled “America,” is a derivation of an arguably superior work: “American Flag” by Shutterstock.

Zimmerman’s painting is a multi-layered homage/commentary on 20th century art. He cleverly inverts the artistic conceit of Warhol’s “Campbell’s Soup Cans,” instead taking a meaningful symbol of American culture and turning it into a cheap object of commerce. Zimmerman also pays subtle homage to Picasso’s Blue Period, which was inspired by the suicide of his friend Carlos Casagemas. It might also be a dig at the paltry selection at his local Michael’s craft store. Finally, Zimmerman’s placement of the words “one nation” physically beneath the word “God” is a clear reference to the grade-school pictograms of Salvador Dali, particularly his famous “Man Overboard.”

Cuomo brought Saltz in to explain “How can someone like this, assuming you believe the worst about George Zimmerman, how could someone ever want art from someone like this?”

“Mass murderers have made art, and people have tried to buy it, have bought it, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy,” Saltz noted, adding that “In my humble opinion, this person got away with a crime and in that sense, that is the only reason that anybody would want to buy anything that he made.”

“What have we seen in terms of why, what is the fascination?” Cuomo asked. “What is the desire to buy the artwork of someone who’s been connected to, or convicted for, a horrible crime?”

That’s when Saltz delivered his blistering critique, telling Cuomo that Zimmerman’s painting is “a travesty, a placard, a poster, something you might see in protest,” but also opining that “It’s a bit of confession to me.”

“It’s talking about liberty, justice for all,” Saltz continued, marking up the painting with a telestrator. “Well, you know, it’s almost like none of this ever happened. And then also, you have this is his funny little — he’s almost trying to be a cause. And the cause is that I think he is is a travesty of justice, a crime. It’s insipid, it’s not — there’s no thought in it. It’s needing to be the center of attention. I think it’s a bit psychotic.”

Saltz also noted the similarities to the Shutterstock photo, and added that Zimmerman “Just needs attention. It’s just the beginning. This guy is, I think, a kind of person heading for a fall.”

Asked where the current bidding places Zimmerman in the price hierarchy of the art world, a clearly crestfallen Saltz replied “I almost can’t stand that we have great artists, Picasso, Warhol, Lichtenstein, what Zimmerman made, he’s not an artist. To me, what he made was a simpleton, quasi-psychotic painting, in my opinion.”

He also told Cuomo that these bidders are “buying the idea that George Zimmerman, a person that, in my opinion, got away with a crime, is worthy of supporting. In my opinion, he should not even be allowed to make the money sold for this painting.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-art-critic-calls-zimmerman-painting-psychotic-compares-him-with-manson-and-gacy/


Well, this critic didn't mince any words about what he feels about Zimmerman, or his art,
Liberals are really BAD PEOPLE, morally foul.
Its fun to offend them, or to see them in a state of defeat!
I enjoyed that post; LOVED it. Thank u, Firefly.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 05:19 am
@oralloy,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Is the Taliban party to the Geneva Convention ?

So far as I have heard, when the Moslems have been put on trial,
thay WERE granted defensive legal counsel.

Admittedly, I have not been paying close attention
to the adventures of prisoners of war.
oralloy wrote:
Remember that Cicerone Imposter is a retard.
That sort of derails any conversation with him from the start.
Yes; it seems to be age-based progressive mental decline.
Notice that he has become progressively more hostile on an ad hominem basis,
hurling much personal invective.



oralloy wrote:
A captured enemy fighter does not need to be charged with any sort of crime
before he can be detained until the end of the war. Simply being a captured enemy fighter
is enough to justify the detention.

Therefore all this talk of charges is meaningless.

It is certainly true though that if we did charge someone with a crime,
they would receive legal representation.
Yes.





David
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 10:13 am
If ever hollywood decides to do a Charlton Heston biopic, I hope they'll cast Zimmy in the role..Smile

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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 10:14 am
@OmSigDAVID,
You guys keep using ad hominems about me instead of identifying what I post is wrong. That's because you guys are so stupid, you can't find anything you can challenge.

The reason I keep challenging you guys is to prove how stupid you are! You guys prove it over and over - without any help from me.

Show me from any of my over 80,000 posts that proves that I'm a retard or is suffering from my age?

I can pick any of your posts from the past few pages to show how stupid you are!
BillRM
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 10:23 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You guys keep using ad hominems about me instead of identifying what I post is wrong. That's because you guys are so stupid, you can't find anything you can challenge.


OH? Are you losing your short term memory in your old age?
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2013 10:44 am
Guys, guys, the bottom line is that somebody jumped on Zimmy and began smashing his face and head, so Zim invoked his Constitutional right and shot him. I don't think anybody except anti-american commies would say Zim did anything wrong..Smile

"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense."- (President John Adams 1735-1826)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/John-Adams_zps62ebe82d.jpg~original
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