The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@firefly,

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Look, even Zimmerman's current attorney has called him a "wannabe cop

sounds like a compliment.

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who should not have been carrying a gun that night.

because no one should in her opinion, correct? still, I bet she thinks citizens should be treated according to the law, that the law is the problem not george.

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@RABEL222,

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n Hawks and Oralboys eyes threatening people with guns is completely normal. After all they live in a totally different world from most of us.

An in your world if your attacker is black and you are only 1/8 black or some such then you have no right to defend yourself.

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@hawkeye10,

No, Hawkeye, she did not mean it as a compliment when she called Zimmerman "a wannabe cop", and that's clear if you watch a video clip of her saying it. She did not approve of his actions.

Oh, I think she sees George as having a problem, which is why she made her "wannabe cop" comment.

She just didn't think there was enough evidence to convict him for the actual shooting.

I think her relationship with her new client should be fascinating. He's given past lawyers a difficult time trying to control him, and he certainly does seem to have problems in his relationships with women, so I can't wait to see what will happen when he's in a relationship with a woman who has to be the one in charge. I'd love to know what will go on behind the scenes between these two. I wish her luck.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

In Hawks and Oralboys eyes threatening people with guns is completely normal. After all they live in a totally different world from most of us.

Pipe down, retard.

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@oralloy,

"retard?" Is that the very best you can come up with? Figures; you're not so smart either! You wouldn't even be able to say why, but I'd like to see you try. Just for the fun of it. Mr. Green

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@firefly,

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I think her relationship with her new client should be fascinating. He's given past lawyers a difficult time trying to control him, and he certainly does seem to have problems in his relationships with women, so I can't wait to see what will happen when he's in a relationship with a woman who has to be the one in charge. I'd love to know what will go on behind the scenes between these two. I wish her luck.

Rumor has it that Omara was instrumental in signing her onto the case, and that there is an agreement that both will get paid when Zimmerman writes his book and sells the rights to the screenplay. i will be interested to see how much of this is true.

I like what i hear about this broad though, she goes to the mat for her clients no matter her personal opinion, which is how the profession is supposed to work and too rarely does.

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@hawkeye10,

CLUE: That's how client-attorney relationships are supposed to work. But, that simple idea is too difficult for your tiny brain to comprehend.

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@firefly,

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No, Hawkeye, she did not mean it as a compliment when she called Zimmerman "a wannabe cop",

The statement: George Zimmerman's "wannabe cop" comment inferred he'd like to take the law into his own hands based on his personal assumptions which he would then act on.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

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No, Hawkeye, she did not mean it as a compliment when she called Zimmerman "a wannabe cop",

The statement: George Zimmerman's "wannabe cop" comment inferred he'd like to take the law into his own hands based on his personal assumptions which he would then act on.

we had a trial, George acted within the law.

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@hawkeye10,

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Rumor has it that Omara was instrumental in signing her onto the case, and that there is an agreement that both will get paid when Zimmerman writes his book and sells the rights to the screenplay. i will be interested to see how much of this is true.

I'd really like you to cite a source for that rumor. It's one of the least credible things I've heard in a long time.

Most people, including, I think, O'Mara, now believe that whatever Zimmerman could have made from book or interview deals has now dried up because of his subsequent run-ins with the police and his new legal problems. And there has been no movement, at all, on his civil suit against NBC since at least last March. He's now very damaged goods when it comes to selling his story, and his civil suit seems to be going nowhere.

That's one reason O'Mara and West have now billed Zimmerman $2.5 million--that means there is no "deal" to get paid later for his murder trial. They consider that money owed to them right now, which is why they've billed him.

Who knows why his new high profile lawyer has agreed to take on an allegedly indigent client. No criminal attorneys take on an indigent client based on a lick and a promise that they'll get paid later. These people want some money up front, so they won't get stiffed if their client doesn't like the verdict, or if he skips town after an acquittal. Even O'Mara didn't initially take on Zimmerman believing he'd get paid later.

I'd love to know why the new lawyer did take on Zimmerman, and whether or not there is an arrangement to have someone else pay her on Zimmerman's behalf. We'll probably never know.

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@hawkeye10,

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we had a trial, George acted within the law.

Something these jokers are not bright enough to understand.

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@BillRM,

BillRM, I think you should immediately open your home to George Zimmerman.

The man is homeless, and indigent, and needs a place to stay that's within the state of Florida.

And you clearly idolize him, and think he's a wonderful human being.

Providing Zimmerman with shelter at your home seems like an ideal solution.

Think of all the wonderful chats you two could have, talking about how rotten and lying women can be, beside all the info you two could exchange about guns. George might even take you on a visit to his favorite gun factory.

Go ahead, BillRM, take the poor man in. It's a perfect arrangement.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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we had a trial, George acted within the law.

Something these jokers are not bright enough to understand.

this is like OJ where loads of people are convinced that the justice system got it wrong. ok fine, but if we have a malfunctioning justice system that is a much more important topic than is George Zimmerman, so why aren't we talking about it? I would LOVE to talk about it, as you know I have loads of complaints about the justice system.

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@firefly,

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The man is homeless,

says who?

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and indigent,

if so it never seems to be a problem. he travels, has a nice rig, has a extremely expensive lawyer.

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@hawkeye10,

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this is like OJ where loads of people are convinced that the justice system got it wrong. ok fine, but if we have a malfunctioning justice system that is a much more important topic than is George Zimmerman, so why aren't we talking about it? I would LOVE to talk about it, as you know I have loads of complaints about the justice system.

So, organize your thinking on the issue, and start that thread. Your problem is usually that you over-generalize too much. Our justice system is flawed, and does need improvement, but it's not "malfunctioning". You make unsupportable sweeping generalizations. If you think more carefully, and support what you're saying with unbiased objective documentation, I think you could make some compelling arguments, but you've got to think more, before you shoot your mouth off.

But it would be an interesting topic for a new thread.

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@hawkeye10,

Zimmerman said he's homeless--that's what he told the court during his recent appearance before a judge. He said he's homeless and indigent.

Of course, with Zimmerman, we never know whether he's lying or not. He has lied to a court before about such matters...

When asked to provide his contact address for the court, in case of an emergency, he put down the address of O'Mara's law firm, even though O'Mara was no longer representing him.

BillRM is so compassionate about taking in stray cats, surely he should open his home to this allegedly homeless and indigent man he so admires. It would be a perfect fit. Smile

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@firefly,

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@BillRM,
BillRM, I think you should immediately open your home to George Zimmerman.

The man is homeless, and indigent, and needs a place to stay that's within the state of Florida.

And you clearly idolize him, and think he's a wonderful human being.

Providing Zimmerman with shelter at your home seems like an ideal solution.

Think of all the wonderful chats you two could have, talking about how rotten and lying women can be, beside all the info you two could exchange about guns. George might even take you on a visit to his favorite gun factory.

Go ahead, BillRM, take the poor man in. It's a perfect arrangement.

What an amusingly funny post, Firefly. You possess a wonderful sense of humor. Smile

As far as Zimmerman being indigent, well, that's not a sure gone conclusion. He might have another web money account set up. There are many people like Billrm who said he sent a check to the murderer and there will be similar nitwits who will continue to contribute to the man they believe is being railroaded by people against others who kill people they stereotypically believe are dangerous, like Trayvon Martin. In fact, Zimmerman pulled in quite a haul from two websites during his trial and lied about being broke, unable to pay his bill.....my he is a sneaky one! Who knows, he might leave this money site up for quite sometime as long as people are willing to send checks. If as they say he has gotten himself an expensive lawyer, it's clear these Defense lawyers will not view Zimmerman as a charity case.

Zimmerman has never been straihtforward with his finances, so why trust him now?!

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@firefly,

DAVID wrote:

He knew that the police were on their way, because he called them.

firefly wrote:

Which is why Zimmerman shouldn't have followed Martin.
He should have left police work to the police.

That is a non-sequitur; he was trying to help the police
to find the suspect 's location. He was helpful.

firefly wrote:

Look, even Zimmerman's current attorney has called him a "wannabe cop"
who should not have been carrying a gun that night.

We are not bound by that lawyer 's opinions,
tho maybe Zimmy needs better or more loyal legal representation.
That lawyer is not the repository of TRUTH.

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The entire confrontation, and shooting, would have been avoided that night,
had Zimmerman not followed Martin.

Then, for that matter, it 'd have been avoided if martin
had stayed home that nite.
Martin had EXACTLY the same amount of right to go to the store that nite,
as Zimmy had and he still has to follow people in public.
Following people is a PERFECTLY LAWFUL use of the public streets.
If u dispute that, then please cite us to the law against it,
instead of obliquely implying that there was something improper about it.

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And that was also the conclusion the police arrived at.

Undoubtedly, the police have all different opinions about it.

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The entire incident was avoidable.

Yes, if martin had refrained from beating Zimmy 's head upon the street.
All martin had to do was be nice.
I did that in NY, when confronted and it worked PERFECTLY!

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It was Zimmerman who initiated and provoked it.

He has our thanks for his civic-minded initiatives, including following suspected burglars.

Knowing that the arrival of the police was very imminent,
Zimmy was not going to commit a bloody violent felony,
possibly right in front of them (depending on how far thay were),
nor commit a violent felony right out in front of all the nabors thereabout,
as he was yelling for help. He lawfully defended himself. He defended all of the nabors.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

He was not helpful; he killed a young kid.

Your are blinded by your own bigotry and ignorance.

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@OmSigDAVID,

David, if BillRM won't take Zimmerman in, you really should, now that you live in Florida.

Given his continuing run-ins with the police, he really needs a live-in lawyer.

Give poor homeless "Zimmy" a bed in your abode, David, provide him with food, and shelter, some gas for his truck, and some pocket money, you could consider it as one of your random acts of kindness.

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