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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Wed 11 Sep, 2013 10:59 pm
Your opinion sucks.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Wed 11 Sep, 2013 11:02 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Your opinion sucks.


Suggest that you use the reply feature and even the quote feature on this system in the future so people do not need to guess who opinion sucks.

You can see how it work by this example of a proper reply.
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 11 Sep, 2013 11:14 pm
hint: who was talking about his opinion in the post directly before mine? apparently I overestimated your ability to draw the obvious conclusion
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 11 Sep, 2013 11:15 pm
@firefly,
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So maybe the real lesson here is that Florida's laws work best if there's no one else around to dispute the story.
you heard it from me first that one of the major flaws of modern american law is that it incentivizes killing. One of my examples is the child rapist who will face such stiff penalty for the rape that he is logically better off to kill the victim in hopes of not getting caught.
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hawkeye10
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 12:35 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

hint: who was talking about his opinion in the post directly before mine? apparently I overestimated your ability to draw the obvious conclusion

so not only do you do drive by's but you are lazy too. GREAT.
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 12:57 am
@hawkeye10,
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Sims ( divorce attorney Kelly Sims) said he bore some of the blame for the dustup because he told Shellie Zimmerman she didn’t need to ask police to accompany her to the house. “It’s my fault,” he said.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/11/20439053-shellie-zimmerman-lawyer-she-believed-george-was-armed?lite

as in this was wrong legal advise, she was trespassing, and George had good reason to be pissed off about it. I am usually right.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 04:28 am
@hawkeye10,
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George Zimmerman told police that he was locking the garage door when his father-in-law “charged him” and knocked him to the ground. When he got back up, he said, the father-in-law “became aggressive and was trying to attack him,” the report said.


How many times though is George going to "hide the gun" pretend he has one, confuse everyone through being paranoid, to his advantage to then cry wolf again.... Everyone charges at George? And so he then retaliates? His blonde bombshell said he had guns in the car.
roger
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 04:46 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Hah! I was all set to post the same quote. You beat me too it.

That poor guy must be awful easy to knock over
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 12 Sep, 2013 05:35 am
@FOUND SOUL,
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How many times though is George going to "hide the gun"


Fool CC carriers are not supposed to show or allow others to know that they are armed for that matter. Nor if I knew the police was gong to be showing up in that type of situation would I have remain armed for everyone safety

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through being paranoid


How many thousands of deaths threats would it take for you to be "paranoid"?


Next if his wife did throw at him and or hit him with the Ipad she is the one who will be arrested for domestic violence no matter what Zimmerman desire and as she is on probation already she would be in a world of hurt.
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revelette
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 05:56 am
@roger,
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/textarticle_640/2013/09/09/zimmerman1.jpg

Here is Shellie Zimmerman's dad.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 12 Sep, 2013 06:03 am
@revelette,
Zimmerman as far as I know is not having sex with his wife dad so any violence between them would not come under the domestic violence laws.

So it neither wish to press charges that is the end of the matter unlike any violence no matter how minor between Zimmerman and his wife.
revelette
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 06:12 am
@BillRM,
I am not talking about any legal matters. As far as I know, Zimmerman is not accusing Shellie of knocking him down and his dad is the one he hit. I was merely pointing out with the picture how old her dad is. He simply don't look tough enough to do what Zimmerman claimed he did.
BillRM
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 06:28 am
@revelette,
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I was merely pointing out with the picture how old her dad is. He simply don't look tough enough to do what Zimmerman claimed he did


Being knocked over does not take someone with a great deal of power or strength in fact I am hardly a small man but a large dog jumping on me when I was not aware had knocked me over more then once in my life,
revelette
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 07:14 am
@BillRM,
Funny how the same arguments being used in defense of Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin are being used by you and Hawkeye in defense of Zimmerman hitting an old man. Large dogs also have been known to rip a person's throat out, what's that got to do with anything?
BillRM
 
  0  
Thu 12 Sep, 2013 07:26 am
@revelette,
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Funny how the same arguments being used in defense of Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin are being used by you and Hawkeye in defense of Zimmerman hitting an old man


First how he got his nose hurt is still an open question as far as I know and second Trayvon just knocking Zimmerman down would not had called for or allowed the use of deadly force. He could have knocked down Zimmerman and then walk away in safety.

Getting on top of Zimmerman and pounding away along with pounding Zimmerman head on the sidewalk and so on was the trigger point of using deadly force to stop the attack.
revelette
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 07:31 am
@BillRM,
I am not going through the whole thing with the (not) pounding head thing again.

So do you think Shellie hit her dad in the nose?
BillRM
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 08:03 am
@revelette,
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So do you think Shellie hit her dad in the nose?


I think there was a lot of shoving and such going on between all of them where the man nose could had been hit without any intention of that happening.

I do not think that Zimmerman slug his father in law in the face however.
parados
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 08:05 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Zimmerman as far as I know is not having sex with his wife dad so any violence between them would not come under the domestic violence laws.


Really? So a father could beat his children and it wouldn't be domestic violence under the law unless he was shown to be having sex with them as well? What a strange world you inhabit Bill.
BillRM
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 08:34 am
@parados,
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Really? So a father could beat his children and it wouldn't be domestic violence under the law unless he was shown to be having sex with them as well? What a strange world you inhabit Bill.


It would fall under the child abused laws not the domestic violence laws and I live unlike you in a world where laws cover what they was design to cover and the domestic laws was written not to cover child abused or conflicts between a man and his father in law but mainly partners violence.
parados
 
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Thu 12 Sep, 2013 09:20 am
@BillRM,
Not according to Florida law it wouldn't.

An attack on a father in law would be covered by domestic abuse law in Florida. There is nothing about "sex" in the definition in that law.
Florida Domestic Violence definitions

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It would fall under the child abused laws not the domestic violence laws
I'm curious how you would deal with it if he shot a 17 year old that hit him first.
 

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