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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:17 pm
@BillRM,
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Damn shame that you assholes was able to put enough pressure on this family to cause it to break apart.

But then there is always the chance that in order to reduce the risk to her from the haters such as yourself they decided to "end" their marriage.


You are aware that Shellie walked out on George the night before he killed Trayvon Martin, aren't you? Laughing

While George was busy killing an innocent unarmed child, Shellie was staying at her father's house, to get away from him.

Oh, do I hope she opens up and tells the truth about what George is like. She's already said she always had the fear in the back of her mind that he might hurt her.

I wonder how long it will take before Martin's parents' lawyer gets in touch with her--if he hasn't already done that.
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BillRM
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:26 pm
@RABEL222,
Here is you idea of a child........

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZWYgsDYiFCMyITnhFWeh-ZXsy-PwzXp7EymyM7dy3xoSml2h4
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:28 pm
@RABEL222,
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Shelly Zimmerman finally kicked the child killer to the curb.

Good for her!

Look, she now knows the man is capable of murder, without feeling any remorse about it, and, since he's gotten away with it once, he could suddenly decide he felt "threatened" by her too. She'd have to be nuts to stay with him.

I think she knows just how out-of-control he is.

He's going to self-destruct, and she's better off staying clear of him.

hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:30 pm
@firefly,
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Look, she now knows the man is capable of murder, without feeling any remorse about it, and, since he's gotten away with it once, he could suddenly decide he felt "threatened" by her too. She'd have to be nuts to stay with him.

I think she knows just how out-of-control he is.


her words so far lean more towards the reading that abuse at the hands of the state stressed their relationship more than it could give. trauma is very often a relationship killer.
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:35 pm
@BillRM,
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Here is you idea of a child........

Is that supposed to be shocking, asshole? Laughing

Yup, children can do that...
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/kid%20giving%20the%20finger.jpg
So can Presidents...
http://www.startstrongmonday.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Bush_Finger-300x266.jpg
This one's for you, BillRM.
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4148/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4148R-170.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
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her words so far lean more towards the reading that abuse at the hands of the state stressed their relationship more than it could give.


Half of all marriages end in divorce and that is without the fear/pressure that someone is going to drive by and open fired on your home or pull up by your car at a stop light and once more fire on you due to who your husband happen to be.

hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:40 pm
@BillRM,
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Shellie Zimmerman described the period before George Zimmerman went to trial for killing Trayvon Martin, telling ABC, “I think we have been pretty much like gypsies…We've lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods, scared every night that someone was going to find us and that we'd be out in the woods alone and that it would be horrific." Throughout the process, Shellie Zimmerman said, “it's difficult to communicate with your spouse when you're under so much scrutiny from both sides and I think we both have been fighting for our own individual struggles to be heard by each other and that's been difficult."

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/09/05/george_zimmerman_s_wife_is_preparing_the_paperwork_to_file_for_divorce_her.html

nothing here supports Fireflies words, not that this is surprising considering how much she lies.....
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:43 pm
@BillRM,
EXCEPT SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN WALKED OUT ON GEORGE THE DAY BEFORE HE KILLED TRAYVON MARTIN.

She went to stay at her father's house to get away from George after a very nasty blowout.



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firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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nothing here supports Fireflies words, not that this is surprising considering how much she lies.....

You've yet to demonstrate ever a single instance where I've lied. That makes your credibility complete crap. Smile
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"George has never laid a hand on me nor has he ever used any sort of force. I was concerned that we were living in something that we’d never experienced before and that there is a first time for everything….I just always had that kind of fear in the back of mind,” she said.

Poor George Zimmerman — victimized by the blacks, victimized by the press, and now victimized by the woman who feared he might snap and hit her.

http://wonkette.com/527163/george-zimmermans-wife-second-amendmented-their-marriage-night-before-he-shot-trayvon-martin#mySs0LYVGHjQTBm3.99
BillRM
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
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nothing here supports Fireflies words, not that this is surprising considering how much she lies....


Firefly would not know the truth under any condition and the divorce is just another example of the harm being done to an innocent man and his family by ex-legal means in this case mainly due to death threats.

Damn government as I would bet that Holder would have FBI agents coming out of the woodwork by the hundreds if someone would dare to threaten Trayvon family.
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 07:58 pm
@BillRM,
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the divorce is just another example of the harm being done to an innocent man and his family by ex-legal means in this case mainly due to death threats.

EXCEPT SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN WALKED OUT ON GEORGE THE DAY BEFORE HE KILLED TRAYVON MARTIN.

She went to stay at her father's house to get away from George after a very nasty blowout.

Boy do you enjoy making a fool of yourself. You can't deal with reality at all.
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/6/9/0/6/6/a2071971-72-Laugh%20TomJerry.gif?d=1221831828
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:01 pm
@firefly,
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"George has never laid a hand on me nor has he ever used any sort of force. I was concerned that we were living in something that we’d never experienced before and that there is a first time for everything….I just always had that kind of fear in the back of mind,” she said.
there is not a human on this Earth without the capacity to do evil, so all she is saying is that while she has never known him to be violent George Zimmerman is human. Alert the AP!
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:03 pm
@firefly,
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She went to stay at her father's house to get away from George after a very nasty blowout.
I dont know that this did not happen by mutual consent. Hell, I dont know that it was not George's idea!

They had a fight.....ALERT THE AP!
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
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so all she is saying is that while she has never known him to be violent...

She knows him to be violent...he killed someone.

He was also arrested for slugging a cop and for resisting arrest with violence, and he was court-ordered to take anger management classes.

His former fiancée had a restraining order against him.

And he was fired from a part-time job as a party security person for being too aggressive.

I think, after he killed someone, she knew just how violent he can be...and she became fearful he could turn it on her.
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"George has never laid a hand on me nor has he ever used any sort of force. I was concerned that we were living in something that we’d never experienced before and that there is a first time for everything….I just always had that kind of fear in the back of mind,” she said
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:12 pm
@firefly,
and yet after he shot the kid she said

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He is absolutely not a violent person," his wife, Shellie Zimmerman, testified.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57417663/george-zimmermans-wife-testifies-at-bond-hearing-he-is-absolutely-not-a-violent-person/

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He was also arrested for slugging a cop

liar
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Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite
firefly
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
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liar

This is what he was arrested for and charged with...just as I said.

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•In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite


Your credibility is still ****. I don't lie.

And I wouldn't believe anything Shellie Zimmerman said at that bail hearing--that's when she committed perjury. And I think she was under great pressure from her husband to do, and say, whatever he told her to.

Everyone in the Zimmerman family gave interviews and spoke out in defense of George--his parents and his brother--but Shellie never did that. She kept silent, until last week--when she was getting ready to divorce him--and the things she's begun saying aren't all that favorable.

Unlike her husband, Shellie is able to take responsibility for her actions.

When she's free of him, we'll hear the truth from Shellie Zimmerman...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:23 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
So many people
hoping one day they will get to use the "self defense" argument!
"So many" as what, Frank ??

I dont see that its worth it; too much trouble,
but u can use it if u wanna.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 08:53 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Walking around, talking on a cell phone, is just that.
It is not "pre-burglary casing houses".
Talking on a fone is no excuse for casing the naborhood for burglary.




firefly wrote:
Zimmerman saw a young black male, doing absolutely nothing wrong,
Preparing for burglary is rong.





firefly wrote:
in a place he had a right to be, and he misinterpreted the male's behavior
What leads u to believe that there was any misinterpretation???
Is it that he had not completed his burglaries yet??




firefly wrote:
because of his skin color--he racially profiled him,
OK; nothing rong with that.
He did not CONVICT him; he only followed to see him.
That is perfectly legal and moral.





firefly wrote:
and he completely disregarded Neighborhood Watch rules
by both pursuing him, and by doing so when armed.
So what??
Do u allege that he had a legal or moral duty to obay that club??
I doubt that he did.
If u can point to a rule of law that says he must do so,
then will u reveal it to us, if u dont mind???





firefly wrote:
Zimmerman recklessly stalked
The stalking was not "reckless".





firefly wrote:
and killed an innocent house guest
He was not "innocent"; he was a bloodthirsty murderer wannabe.





firefly wrote:
in that community he was allegedly "protecting".
Trayvon Martin was a victim of George Zimmerman's personal obsessions,
poor judgment and impaired impulse control.

You don't protect a community by killing innocent children who are staying there.
U protect it VERY WELL indeed by killing a homicidal maniac that has snuck in there.
After Zimmy, Mr. t will not pound anyone else 's head on the street.
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BillRM
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 09:18 pm
@hawkeye10,
I do not know about you Hawkeye, but I would wish to get my wife out of the line of fire and danger even if it mean her filing for divorce.
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 5 Sep, 2013 09:44 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

I do not know about you Hawkeye, but I would wish to get my wife out of the line of fire and danger even if it mean her filing for divorce.

no, no, no, no...George is a bad guy who has been abusing her for years and she has finally seen the light, that is the only possibility according to the victim culture promoters, any other reading is heracy! Facts and evidence be damned.
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