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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 29 Aug, 2013 08:38 pm
@BillRM,
Can't you control your perverse desires to keep talking about child pornography? You keep bringing the topic of child pornography up, over and over, when it is unrelated to anything that went on between Zimmerman and Martin.

Do you find it sexually stimulating to talk about child pornoraphy? Do you find it sexually stimulating to think about such things being on a 16 year old boy's cell phone?

http://www.adrants.com/images/head_up_ass.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 29 Aug, 2013 08:39 pm
@BillRM,
"Greatly harming him" is an oxymoron. Nobody has proven your claim, nor was it provided during trial as evidence. His injuries were minor that didn't require any medical treatment beyond first aid.

Your imagination is only exceeded by your stupidity and ignorance.
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 29 Aug, 2013 08:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
BillRM is brain dead.

He has no idea what's real and what isn't, or what's true and what's not--and he doesn't care.

He's making a complete jackass of himself. He always winds up doing that, regardless of the topic, but this time he's managing to outdo himself.

The only reason to keep reading his posts is to see just how absurd and moronic he can get. He's scaling the heights this time. Laughing
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firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:01 pm
http://thejosevilson.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/trayvonmartinwithdad.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
"Greatly harming him" is an oxymoron. Nobody has proven your claim, nor was it provided during trial as evidence. His injuries were minor that didn't require any medical treatment beyond first aid.


Once more a jury agree with me not you and one of the prosecutor own witness stated in front of the jury that you do not need to wait until you been serous harm in order to defense yourself with deadly force.

Quote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57592150-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-zimmerman-learned-about-self-defense-in-criminal-litigation-class-military-attorney-testifies/

Defense attorney Don West asked Carter to detail the concepts in Florida's self-defense statue. Though his line of questioning was met with repeated objections from the prosecution, Circuit Judge Nelson allowed Carter to detail the concepts he discussed in class.

Carter said that if a person has "reasonable apprehension and fear" of death or great bodily harm, they may respond with deadly force in order to defend themselves. Under the "Stand your Ground" statute in Florida, the person does not have the duty to first retreat before responding with force, even if the person is outside their home, he said.

West questioned Carter about whether a person needs to be injured to be in fear for their life, apparently referencing Tuesday testimony from a medical examiner who said Zimmerman's injuries were "insignificant."

"The fact alone that there isn't an injury doesn't necessarily mean the person did not have a reasonable apprehension and fear," Carter replied.

However, injuries "tend to show or support that the person had a reasonable apprehension and fear," he said.

"You don't have to wait until you're almost dead to defend yourself?," West asked.

"No, I would advise you probably don't do that," Carter replied, as some in the courtroom laughed.
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firefly
 
  1  
Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:15 pm
@BillRM,
This is the one who had reasonable, and justified, fears for his life...

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1364526988/trayvon-martin-17.jpg
Trayvon Martin
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:19 pm
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
I'm kinda surprised to see that post from you. Even if some folks believe that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, they should at least have some compassion in the death of a teenager and not makes jokes of his death.

I didn't produce the image. I would have spelled ONLY correctly.

The reason that "whoever" typed the commentary about the 9MM is because there is a bit of controversy over the caliber.

When fired from a typical handgun, the 9MM is clearly good enough to be viable for self defense. And it is much better than the calibers that are not so viable.

But at the same time, it is right on the margin, and calibers that are just a bit more potent are clearly even better yet. A slight step up in potency results in a measurable increase in how effective it is for self defense.

That leads to some people saying the 9MM is good enough, and other people saying that other calibers should be used.

In a way it is like a Coke verses Pepsi argument, or Chevy verses Ford, or Microsoft verses Apple. It's something for gun people to spend their time in a (hopefully pleasant) argument about when there is nothing better to do.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:20 pm
@Miller,
Miller wrote:
BillRM wrote:
His death was the direct results of his own actions in attacking Zimmerman.

His death was the result of sterotyping by Zimmerman, who not only sterotyped him, but then stalked him.

Not really. Trayvon's death was a result of his violent assault against Mr. Zimmerman.


Miller wrote:
One act following another, until the act of murder.

There was no murder.

Even if this had been a crime, it would only have been manslaughter. However, as an act of legitimate self defense, the shooting was not illegal in any way.
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firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:24 pm
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/480897_157641604414852_116525603_n.jpg
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oralloy
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:27 pm
@Miller,
Miller wrote:
BillRM wrote:
Miller wrote:
BillRM wrote:
His death was the direct results of his own actions in attacking Zimmerman.

His death was the result of sterotyping by Zimmerman, who not only sterotyped him, but then stalked him. One act following another, until the act of murder.

Bullshit without him attacking Zimmerman by knocking him down and getting on top of him he would still be collecting underage nude pictures of naked girls and holding women jewelry he just can not explain and being kicked out of schools and bragging about his ability to fight.
Oh yes experimenting with producing illegal drugs and in general going on from being a hoodlum what to be into a full blown hoodlum.

You seem to lack any sense of logical thought.

His logic looks to be all in order.

By violently assaulting the wrong person and getting himself killed, Trayvon spared humanity the damage that he was preparing to inflict on us all.
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firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:50 pm
http://media.cagle.com/83/2013/07/11/134476_600.jpg
http://www.freeloljokes.com/products/2001Zimmerman.png

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parados
 
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Fri 30 Aug, 2013 06:44 am
@BillRM,
Damn Bill, you just proved that the statue of David is porn.

If Trayvon had taken a naked picture of himself under your interpretation he would have possessed child porn. What case can you find us where a person under 18 simply having a naked picture of another person under 18 resulted in a federal conviction of child porn?
parados
 
  1  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 06:49 am
@BillRM,
By the way Bill, under your interpretation it looks like over 40% of teens are hoodlums.

http://www.pcsndreams.com/Pages/Sexting_Statistics.html
Quote:
48 Percent of teenagers say they have received such messages
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McGentrix
 
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Fri 30 Aug, 2013 07:50 am
@Frank Apisa,
I would certainly have categorized Martin as a hoodlum based on what we know about him. Young black male, dressed in a dark hoodie at night walking through a primarily white neighborhood. Most definitely profiled as a hoodlum considering previous crimes in the neighborhood and worthy of being tailed.

The fact that Martin attacked first confirms that he was a hoodlum. A normal person being followed by a suspicious person would hurry home or to a public place. Not wait in ambush of the person following them. That is something a hoodlum would do.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 07:53 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

I would certainly have categorized Martin as a hoodlum based on what we know about him. Young black male, dressed in a dark hoodie at night walking through a primarily white neighborhood. Most definitely profiled as a hoodlum considering previous crimes in the neighborhood and worthy of being tailed.

The fact that Martin attacked first confirms that he was a hoodlum. A normal person being followed by a suspicious person would hurry home or to a public place. Not wait in ambush of the person following them. That is something a hoodlum would do.


Well...you certainly have the right to do that, McGentrix...no matter how incredibly silly, irrational, and ill-conceived it is.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 30 Aug, 2013 07:55 am
@parados,
Quote:
statue of David is porn.


Unlike other forms of porn there is no defense repeat no defense of it have some artistic value available when it come to child porn. Off to prison you go.....

parados
 
  1  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 08:00 am
@BillRM,
Yeah Bill. 40% of teenagers are in jail because of it. Drunk
revelette
 
  1  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 08:10 am
@McGentrix,
Wearing a hoodie does not equate to a hoodlum. Martin was walking back from the store to his father's fiancée house of which he was staying. So yes he did belong there.

There is no proof that Martin attacked first much less waiting in ambush. Even if he did, he had the right the stand his ground and not retreat or else the whole stand your ground law is meaningless.
BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 08:17 am
@revelette,
Quote:
There is no proof that Martin attacked first much less waiting in ambush


In order to convict Zimmerman you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the attacker and all evidence support Zimmerman version of the events that night.

Quote:
even if he did, had the right the stand his ground and not retreat or else the whole stand your ground law is meaningless.


You have no understanding of the SYG law or the self defense law in general as being follow is not enough to trigger the right of self defense and never been enough to do so.

Being knocked down and having someone on top of your pounding the **** out of you happen to be more then enough.

oralloy
 
  1  
Fri 30 Aug, 2013 08:23 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
There is no proof that Martin attacked first

How did Trayvon get to Mr. Zimmerman's position without deliberately approaching him?


revelette wrote:
Even if he did, he had the right the stand his ground and not retreat or else the whole stand your ground law is meaningless.

Stand Your Ground does not authorize attacking other people for no reason.
 

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