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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
U are like a loud dog; a dirty one.

obnoxious
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:20 pm
@firefly,
He stopped ONE of them from getting away!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:20 pm
@firefly,
He stopped ONE of them from getting away!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:20 pm
@firefly,
He stopped ONE of them from getting away!
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

U are like a loud dog; a dirty one.

obnoxious

yet in real life he is said to be gracious and pleasant...I certainly have wondered why we keep seeing his unpleasant alter ego here at A2K.
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firefly
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:27 pm
http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy1jYzk1MWMxZWMxNDFkNzc5.png
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 28 Aug, 2013 11:30 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy1jYzk1MWMxZWMxNDFkNzc5.png

Spoken by someone who does not care about the rule of law, to be sure.
BillRM
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 04:28 am
@hawkeye10,
Yes Firefly would love to have seen an innocent man send to prison that would shortly to be killed in that prison to teach us all that if attacked by a "child" with a black skin we should just do as the world war two vet or the foreign tourist did and allow ourselves to be killed.

As the one law professor stated this case should be in the law text books as a perfect example of a justify self defense killing.

Someone those I do not think that any text book publisher would dare to allowed this case into such a text book as an example of the correct working of the self defense laws.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 06:09 am
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f237/460695d1372280786-trayvon-martin-crime-scene-photo-trayvon.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ilRUy0.jpg

I am curious, is that an Obama button that Trayvon was wearing when he violently assaulted Mr. Zimmerman?

(I did not create the picture. Please don't blame me for the spelling error.)
parados
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 07:16 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
There are other instances where use of force is allowed other than self defense but you want to ignore those as well as the reasonable doubt aspect.


I had already posted part of the Zimmerman jury instructions along with the link for the complete jury instructions and reasonable doubt is always as in always a component of a jury verdict.

Next deadly force in Florida can also be used to stop a rape, or a car jacking or a bombing and other such forcible felonies however not one of those felonies was at issue at Zimmerman trial so you are trying to blow smoke.

Zimmerman was not trying to claimed that Trayvon was trying to rape him..LOL

So rather than mention the commission of any felony, you concentrate on rape?
Because you can say Zimmerman wasn't fearing rape doesn't mean the jury found what you claimed. You are now simply deflecting because your original statement doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
BillRM
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 07:42 am
@parados,
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So rather than mention the commission of any felony, you concentrate on rape?


You are a silly person that is not worth taking time with.
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revelette
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 07:51 am
@oralloy,
I'm kinda surprised to see that post from you. Even if some folks believe that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, they should at least have some compassion in the death of a teenager and not makes jokes of his death.

Anyway, the button was a picture of his late relative.
BillRM
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 08:03 am
@revelette,
Quote:
I'm kinda surprised to see that post from you. Even if some folks believe that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, they should at least have some compassion in the death of a teenager and not makes jokes of his death.


I agree but that compassion is running very very thin as we watch the continue pursued of a man found innocent by a jury verdict of wrong doing over the killing.

Where is the compassion for a man and to a lessor degree his wife that need to live in fear of untold nuts eager to killed him and his family to say nothing of the jury members and their families and his lawyers.

Where is the government that was so eager to act when one nut issue a death threat against Nancy Grace for that matter.

To sum up compassion is a two way street and that surely had not been the case here.
firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 08:32 am
@BillRM,
Zimmerman is just as "innocent" as O.J. and Casey Anthony, and he's no less safe than Trayvon Martin was that night..
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http://aquadoc.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf80a53ef01901e8355f4970b-500wi
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:02 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

I'm kinda surprised to see that post from you.


I'm not, this is the person who celebrated the death of an innocent British student and insulted her grieving parents.

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revelette
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:09 am
@BillRM,
Judging by Zimmerman's smile when took a picture with one of employers of a gun factory, I don't think he is too shaken up or in too much fear of his life.


As for his wife, she expressed doubt about their relationship and said she felt alone when Zimmerman didn't come to court with her.

Shellie Zimmerman: I'll have to think about marriage
BillRM
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:26 am
@revelette,
Quote:
As for his wife, she expressed doubt about their relationship and said she felt alone when Zimmerman didn't come to court with her.


Of course if I was Zimmerman I would be likely telling my wife to distant herself from me to reduced the risk of her being killed.

It would seems that death threats and even the killing of Zimmerman and his wife is semi-approval by the government itself that had taken no actions of any kind concerning those death threats.

Compassion for a dead hoodlum what to be is not high on the list as we watch what is had been done and still is being done to an innocent man guilty of only defending his life from that would be hoodlum.
firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:43 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Of course if I was Zimmerman I would be likely telling my wife to distant herself from me to reduced the risk of her being killed.

Don't be so naïve...

Zimmerman's wife had begun distancing herself from her husband before the shooting. The night he shot Trayvon Martin, Shellie Zimmerman wasn't at home. She and George had had a fight the day before, and she had gone to stay with her father.

Didn't you notice that Zimmerman's family--his parents and brother--all publicly spoke out to defend him, but not his wife....

And the creep didn't even show up in court for her, to lend her support, when she pled guilty to a perjury charge yesterday...

It sounds like Shellie Zimmerman has had enough of George....she knows what he's really like. And he better hope she'll keep her mouth shut.
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firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 09:48 am
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George Zimmerman’s Wife Says He Has ‘Beaten Down Her Self Esteem’
By Kevin Dolak
Aug 28, 2013

The Florida investigative journalist who is the first reporter to sit down with George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, said that during their “stunning” hourlong interview, the acquitted killer’s wife said that her husband has “beaten down her self-esteem,” but she is “looking forward to getting her life back.”

Christi O’Connor spoke with ABCNews.com today about her experience locking down an interview with Shellie Zimmerman as the media focused its attention on her husband, who was acquitted of second-degree murder charges in the death of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old, in Sanford, Fla., in February 2012.

Today, Shellie Zimmerman was sentenced to 100 hours of community service and one year’s probation, plus she will have to present an apology letter to the judge she lied to about the couple’s finances. O’Connor said that after months of courting her and her attorney, she was able to secure the interview with Shellie about her life leading up to and since her husband’s trial.

“When I asked her why she was doing [the interview], Shellie said, ‘I want to start my life back.’ George Zimmerman has beaten down her self-esteem,” O’Connor told ABCNews.com, adding that Shellie is using this opportunity for a new start. “She has a moment in the spotlight. She wants everyone to know that she changed her life.”

Shellie also told O’Connor that the aftermath of the shooting and months until the trial put a major strain on the couple’s relationship.

“It put great stress on their marriage,” she said. “Constantly having to move. She got threats. A lot of threats. She doesn’t want to reveal from who…. They are constantly living under fear of being attacked.”

O’Connor, who is working on a book about the George Zimmerman trial, also hinted that there was evidence that was mishandled, saying that during the sensational trial, “there were so many untruths told.”

“What the jury never heard could have led to a different verdict,” she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/08/george-zimmermans-wife-says-he-has-beaten-down-her-self-esteem/
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firefly
 
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Thu 29 Aug, 2013 10:02 am
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George Zimmerman's Wife 'Very Much Alone' When He Didn't Go to Court With Her
Aug. 29, 2013

In a wide-ranging interview conducted by investigative freelance journalist Christi O'Connor, Zimmerman said on the evening Martin died she was staying elsewhere because the couple had got in an argument the night before. She added that the struggles of the last year and a half have further strained their relationship.

Shellie Zimmerman, who pleaded guilty to perjury Wednesday for lying about the couple's finances during her husband's bond hearing, refused to comment on whether she was pressured to do so.

But she said a part of her feels "slightly" like she was hung out to dry when he did not stand up for her when she lied to a judge about how much money they had received in donations from outsiders and that the entire ordeal has hurt their relationship.

Shellie Zimmerman declined to say whether she and her husband remain together, but did say she felt "very much alone" without him in the courtroom to support her when she pleaded guilty Wednesday.

"I can rationalize a lot of reasons for why I was misleading, but the truth is I knew that I was lying," Shellie Zimmerman said. "I wish a lot of things were different. I can't tell you how many times I have laid at night saying God, I wish these circumstances had been different." ...

Mrs. Zimmerman refused to go into details about the argument she had with her husband the night before Martin died that ended with her going to stay with her father, and did not want to give many details about their relationship.

"Does George have a temper? How volatile did it get the evening before?" asked O'Connor.

"Not going to answer that," responded Zimmerman...

During the ordeal she said she wished she stood up for herself more and that she felt like she was directed to do a lot of things by George and relinquished a lot of control to him, but she said she did so because she did not want to stress him out.

"George has never laid a hand on me nor has he ever used any sort of force. I was concerned that we were living in something that we'd never experienced before and that there is a first time for everything….I just always had that kind of fear in the back of mind," she said...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-wife-felt-court/story?id=20103462


His wife now admits she was afraid of George Zimmerman---"I just always had that kind of fear in the back of mind," she said......

Trayvon Martin likely felt the same way that night, with good reason.




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