The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@Baldimo,

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The stats are not in your favor on this FF.

They never are........

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@BillRM,

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I know it serve your purpose to claims that it is evil whites harming blacks but it cut both ways at least to an equal degree and such events are very rare indeed....

No it doesn't cut both ways to an equal degree.

How can you say that after I had just posted this?

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FBI: Hate Crimes Target Blacks In 70 Percent Of Race-Based Cases
11/15/11

Blacks were the group most likely to be the targets of race-based hate crimes, according to a new federal report.

The report, compiled by the FBI's civil rights division, found that the large majority of racial bias crimes were "motivated by anti-black bias."[/]Latinos were the targets of 66 percent of all hate crimes motivated by ethnicity or national origin. Jews were the targets of most crimes against religious groups, and most crimes against a particular sexual orientation or gender were motivated by "anti-homosexual male bias."

The number of hate crimes remained essentially flat between 2009 and 2010. There were 6,628 hate crimes reported in 2010, up very slightly from 6,604 in 2009. About 47 percent of all the reported hate crimes were racially motivated...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/fbi-hate-crimes-target-bl_n_1095465.html

You have no capacity to absorb or learn new information--which is one indication of intelligence, or the lack of it.

Your mind-less broken-record babbling is incredible. You stupidly repeat the same crap over and over, even when you have clearly been shown to be wrong. Do you really enjoy making such a fool of yourself?

At least you're qualified for something...

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@Baldimo,

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How many of those hate crimes were prosecuted successfully?

If you're interested, look it up. It's not my job to have to answer questions for you that you can research for yourself.

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Going by the stat in your own post it looks like less than half the hate crimes were racially motivated...

Right--other hate crimes can be motivated on the basis of religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc.

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The stats are not in your favor on this FF....

You want more hate-based crimes? Rolling Eyes

I'm quite happy the numbers aren't higher--and I wish they were lower for all hate crimes.

The point is, race-based crimes are overwhelming directed at blacks.

FBI: Hate Crimes Target Blacks In 70 Percent Of Race-Based Cases
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/fbi-hate-crimes-target-bl_n_1095465.html

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@firefly,

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The point is, race-based crimes are overwhelming directed at blacks

considering that blacks are almost always killed by other blacks just what are you saying here?

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@hawkeye10,

She trying to claimed that there are a lot more white racists willing to harm blacks then the other way around and on it face that seems not true.

You know a world view where non-blacks are roaming around looking for blacks to killed or harm in meaningful numbers.

She live in such a fantasy world and that is why the story of evil Zimmerman stalking and killing innocent Trayvon so delight her.

No facts, logic, jury verdicts are going to change her mind.

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@hawkeye10,

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considering that blacks are almost always killed by other blacks just what are you saying here?

Do you even understand what a race-based crime is according to the Justice Dept.?

Does your statement that "blacks are almost always killed by other blacks" refer to the fact that these killings were motivated mainly on the basis of racial animosity and anti-black feeling? Blacks kill other blacks for no reason other than skin color? Rolling Eyes

What the hell are you saying?

I can't take the stupidity level in this thread any more.

I can't dumb down my comments any lower to make it easier for some of you to comprehend.

There seem to be almost no people left at A2K who can sustain an intelligent informed conversation on a serious subject. And the preponderance of the clueless in this thread would not exactly attract them here.

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@firefly,

I don't want more hate crimes. I was pointing out that hate crimes are less than 1% of total crimes in the US, meaning it isn't the problem you seem to think that it is. Over 10 million crimes in the US in 2010 and there were 6700 hate crimes. Doesn't seem to be the issue you are making it out to be. So 6700 hate crimes in the US, 47% of them were race based meaning that there were about 3300 race based hate crimes in the US in 2010. Higher then it should be, but not an epidemic as you seem to think it is.

As I said FF the stats are not on your side. There are not white people running around the country killing black people everyday of the year.

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@firefly,

Spoken like a true elitist FF.

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@BillRM,

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@firefly,

U shud be ASHAMED of yourself.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Actually, you're the one who should be ashamed of themselves for being so ignorant for a lawyer. You're even clueless about US laws.

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@cicerone imposter,

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"Revolting" is spot on! OL

Is C. I. going to revolt? and to change the SPOTS on him ??

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@cicerone imposter,

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Actually, you're the one who should be ashamed of themselves for being so ignorant for a lawyer. You're even clueless about US laws.

C. I., the stupidity of your hopeless confusion is beyond ineffability.

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@firefly,

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I can't take the stupidity level in this thread any more.

Better not read the papers then ff.

The collision in Egypt between the elected Muslim Brotherhood and the Military Junta (not a coup for technical reasons) has exactly the same sort of polarised arguments as there are on this thread.

On the one hand a massacre of innocent civilians and on the other the security forces defending themselves from violent attacks.

The consensus as I understand it is that the US is funding the military coup and thus the massacre and the overthrow of democracy despite it being against US law assuming there was a coup and a massacre. Both of which ridiculous assertions are vehemently denied by the Junta and its supporters.

The difference is that Trayvon Martin was an American citizen and the 600 odd dead (and rising) Egyptians were only wogs. The injured still are.

That's racism.

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@hawkeye10,

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why should anyone care if the reason one person violates another is the color of their hat, the color of their skin, or the way they talk, or no reason at all?? It is the violation that is the offense. all of this trying to read the mind of the offender for motive is a irrelevant excursion into tea leaf reading.

If the reason doesn't matter then you should have wanted Zimmerman convicted.

Or you want everyone that kills someone to go free based on your position on Zimmerman and you statement that the reason doesn't matter.

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@parados,

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If the reason doesn't matter then you should have wanted Zimmerman convicted.

Convicted of what? Self defense??????????

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@BillRM,

So Zimmerman didn't kill Martin?

Or are you saying the reason does matter? Self defense is a reason.

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@parados,

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So Zimmerman didn't kill Martin?

Sure did in legal self defense...................

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@BillRM,

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@paradork,
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So Zimmerman didn't kill Martin?

Sure did in legal self defense...................

You know, if the word "killed" bothers either of you guys, you could use the sort of yuppy phraseology you see in commercials for hunting products and say that GZ "harvested" Trayvon.

The harvesting was basically in self defense but, again, if that bothers anybody, you could as easily claim that Trayvon committed suicide by trying to kill a guy with a pistol.

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@gungasnake,

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You know, if the word "killed" bothers either of you guys,

I have no problem with the word killed as that what Zimmerman did in order to save his own life and in his placed I would had killed Trayvon myself.

It is sad that Trayvon by his own actions foreclosed his future and the chance he might had have to straighten out his life.

Still he did not give Zimmerman must of a choice that rainy night and by what we now know of both men Zimmerman is a far more useful member of society then a young man who seems to had been a hoodlum in training.

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