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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
Rockhead
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 08:00 am
@oralloy,
"Trayvon liked mixing his Dextromethorphan with AriZona Watermellon Fruit Drink with Skittles dissolved in it. "

please support this statement with facts.

then we can discuss logic...

(also please show me where angel dust was ever mentioned by anyone but you)
firefly
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 08:11 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Zimmerman is a perceptive guy. He is welcome to patrol my neighborhood any time he likes.

You'd probably be happy to use Casey Anthony as a babysitter as well.
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revelette
 
  3  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 08:18 am
@BillRM,
Possibly, those who regularly use profiling as a useless tool rather than tracking down leads and using detective work.

"oh, there goes a black kid, wearing a hoodie, walking in the rain, we better ask what the heck he thinks he is doing..."
firefly
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 08:39 am
@revelette,
http://www.bet.com/news/national/photos/2012/04/controversial-trayvon-martin-cartoons/_jcr_content/leftcol/flipbook/flipbookimage_1.flipfeature.dimg/040312-national-trayvon-martin-editorial-cartoons-10.jpg
BillRM
 
  0  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 09:10 am
@revelette,
Quote:
"oh, there goes a black kid, wearing a hoodie, walking in the rain, we better ask what the heck he thinks he is doing..."


Sorry nothing that shown that Zimmerman gave a **** about Trayvon skin color even if people like you wish to try to bring his skin color into the situation.

An cops investigating the shooting had also stated that there is no indication that Zimmerman gave a **** about Trayvon skin color.

Nice try however trying to keep turning a mixed race Latin male who all the kingmen [army of FBI agents] could not find a racist bone in his body into a white racist.

A racist who prom date was a black woman and a racist who raised hell over the mistreatment of a homeless black man by the local police.
oralloy
 
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Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:06 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
Martin was into what is called "lean", or "purple drank", which is not the same thing as angle-dust/PCP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank

That depends on whether the cough syrup they use is based on a narcotic like Codeine, or based on a dissociative hallucinogen like Dextromethorphan.

Note from your link:

"Syrup also is made with over-the-counter cough syrups such as Robitussin DM, which contain dextromethorphan as the cough suppressant. Although dextromethorphan is used recreationally, it has dissociative effects as opposed to narcotic. Dextromethorphan is a synthetic morphine analog[28] that has been on the market in the United States since the 1950s.[29] It is a cough suppressant in small doses, but in large doses it can result in a disassociative state, with hallucinations, similar to that produced by PCP or ketamine.[25]"
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:10 am
@firefly,
A black kid wearing a hoodie in the rain and carrying skittles is deadly in Florida.
Brandon9000
 
  0  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:21 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

A black kid wearing a hoodie in the rain and carrying skittles is deadly in Florida.

He is if he attacks someone and beats him.
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firefly
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:30 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry nothing that shown that Zimmerman gave a **** about Trayvon skin color...

Except, of course, his racial profiling of Martin, which was based on his skin color...Zimmerman saw Martin as one of those "f--king punks", the black "assholes who always get away."

And, if you don't share Zimmerman's penchant for racial profiling, then why have you, in support of Zimmerman, been repeatedly referring to Trayvon Martin, who had no history of violence or aggressive behaviors, and no criminal record, as a "hoodlum" or "thug"--except to try to link Martin, a middle class high school student, with ghetto-type young black criminals and anti-social types?. Why do you need to demonize Trayvon Martin as some sort of "urban thug" when that was not this kid's background or his behavior pattern? Simply because he was black?
Quote:
Trayvon Martin must have been violent, must have been a gangster, must have been a drug dealer or drug addict. Because were this not the case—were he simply, as he was, a teenager carrying a can of iced tea and a pack of Skittles minding his own business and on his way home—it would suggest that perhaps the vigilante fantasy that so pervades the conservative camp might be mistaken; that perhaps standing one's ground for so-called Second Amendment remedies could result in the death of an innocent teenager, rather than justified self-defense against one of Boortz' so-called "urban thugs..."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/21/1224296/-Killing-Trayvon-Martin-s-soul#
RABEL222
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:32 am
@BillRM,
Bill, where do you get all this information about St. George of Flordia. Do they have a site listing his kind acts like saving a family of four from a burning car, dating a black girl for his prom, and protecting the rights of a homeless black man. Bet its a good thing neither of the blacks had a bag of skittles or things might have been much different.
Brandon9000
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:33 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
Sorry nothing that shown that Zimmerman gave a **** about Trayvon skin color...

Except, of course, his racial profiling of Martin, which was based on his skin color...Zimmerman saw Martin as one of those "f--king punks", the black "assholes who always get away."

And, if you don't share Zimmerman's penchant for racial profiling, then why have you, in support of Zimmerman, been repeatedly referring to Trayvon Martin, who had no history of violence or aggressive behaviors, and no criminal record, as a "hoodlum" or "thug"--except to try to link Martin, a middle class high school student, with ghetto-type young black criminals and anti-social types?. Why do you need to demonize Trayvon Martin as some sort of "urban thug" when that was not this kid's background or his behavior pattern? Simply because he was black?
Quote:
Trayvon Martin must have been violent, must have been a gangster, must have been a drug dealer or drug addict. Because were this not the case—were he simply, as he was, a teenager carrying a can of iced tea and a pack of Skittles minding his own business and on his way home—it would suggest that perhaps the vigilante fantasy that so pervades the conservative camp might be mistaken; that perhaps standing one's ground for so-called Second Amendment remedies could result in the death of an innocent teenager, rather than justified self-defense against one of Boortz' so-called "urban thugs..."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/21/1224296/-Killing-Trayvon-Martin-s-soul#


So tell me, how has Zimmerman treated black people in the rest of his life? Is there anything in his life story which would suggest his attitude? Oh, that's right, you don't know anything about the guy.
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:35 am
@Brandon9000,
This has to do with Zimmerman's racial profiling of Martin that night, how he generally related to black people is irrelevant.

Brandon9000
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:39 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

This has to do with Zimmerman's racial profiling of Martin that night, how he generally related to black people is irrelevant.

If he generally related well to black people, then it makes it less likely that he did racially profile Martin. But you're right, it is irrelevant, since he claims to have fired his gun to protect himself while being beaten. However, just for the record, it doesn't look like he was a racist:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-shooting-george-zimmerman-protested-treatment-homeless-black-man-police-father-article-1.1057162
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:45 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:

If he generally related well to black people, then it makes it less likely that he did racially profile Martin...

Not at all.

Zimmerman was constantly calling the police about "suspicious" black males.
Brandon9000
 
  1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:46 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:

If he generally related well to black people, then it makes it less likely that he did racially profile Martin...

Not at all.

Zimmerman was constantly calling the police about "suspicious" black males.


And yet, he went out of his way to defend a homeless black man who had been mistreated. Didn't see too much about that in the (liberal) press.
firefly
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:48 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
And yet, he went out of his way to defend a homeless black man who had been mistreated.

You're quite naïve about racial profiling and how it operates..
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:49 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
The story is BS because there is NOTHING that shows the jewelry was stolen. Since there is no owner claiming the jewelry was stolen and identifying that jewelry there is ZERO evidence that the jewelry was stolen let alone that Trayvon Martin stole it.

That makes the story "unproven", not "BS".

And when a teenage male who is spiraling into drug addiction turns up with a stash of women's jewelry along with a likely burglary tool, it is reasonable to suspect that he burgled them.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:52 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
You keep promoting the "purple drank" story and yet there is clear evidence from the toxicology report that no such thing was in his system.

Did his toxicology report indicate whether he was tested for Dextromethorphan?
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:53 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
"Trayvon liked mixing his Dextromethorphan with AriZona Watermellon Fruit Drink with Skittles dissolved in it. "

please support this statement with facts.

Here are a couple snapshots of an online conversation Trayvon had about mixing up lean/drank concoctions.

Note Trayvon's focus on trying to get higher doses of Dextromethorphan.
Quote:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/lean-1.jpg
Quote:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/lean-2.jpg




Rockhead wrote:
also please show me where angel dust was ever mentioned by anyone but you

Dextromethorphan is a dissociative hallucinogen, the same class of drug as PCP. It has the same mechanism of action in the brain that PCP has. And it produces the same effects and side effects as PCP. For all intents and purposes, it is Angel Dust.
Rockhead
 
  3  
Sun 28 Jul, 2013 10:58 am
@oralloy,
where is the "AriZona Watermellon Fruit Drink with Skittles dissolved in it. "?

you sure know a lot about making drugs...

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