The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 've carried handguns since age 8
for self defense and a feeling of tranquility.
Thay have never been related to sexuality in my mind.

Sex has never been discussed at any gun freedom meeting
that I know of in the last half century. Thay are usually family events
with wives and children in attendance. We discuss defensive freedom
in the law and optimal defensive hardware; sometimes including target shooting.
We discuss the political defeat of authoritarian politicians.

Sex and guns mix only in the imaginations
of those leftists who abhor liberty; harmless foolishness.

Bill Clinton was anti-gun freedom; how did his Monica and Hillary feel about gun freedom ?





David

Frank Apisa wrote:

David...do you actually think it is okay to require that we live
in a society that will allow 8 year olds to carry guns?

Truly...do you think that is okay?

Violating their 2nd Amendment rights is raping them out of their rights to live.



Your concept, Frank, is that it is OK
to violate the citizen's most fundmental Constitutional Rights
as long as u disdain his intelligence first, adding insult to injury.

The US Supreme Court has held that
he cannot even be denied a few minutes of inferior seating on a bus,
because of the Constitutional requirements of "equal protection of the laws".
Much less can citizens be raped out of their rights to defend their lives
from the predatory violence of man or beast.

In the 5 years that I lived in Arizona, my nabors were better armed than I was
(both older and younger) and we never had any trouble;
no lights and sirens at all. I respect children 's minds better than u do.





David

Filled with regrets and doubt, the only minority on the Florida jury made up entirely of women that found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin says that she “can’t sleep at night.”

“George Zimmerman got away with murder,” Maddy, who declined to give her last name, said in an interview with ABC’s Robin Roberts on "Good Morning America," “but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with."

A 36-year-old of Puerto Rican decent, Maddy said that while she and many of her fellow jurors believed that Zimmerman was guilty of murdering Martin at a housing community in Sanford, Fla. on Feb. 26, “the law couldn’t prove it.”

"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," the woman, who has previously been known as Juror B29, told Roberts. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

The realization that the jury would likely not find Zimmerman guilty of second-degree murder began to set in on the second day of deliberations, Maddy said.

"As much as we were trying to find this man guilty … they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told."

The question at the center of the case was whether Zimmerman, who confessed to shooting Martin, had acted in self-defense, and was therefore justified in using his gun against the teenager.

"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

Though she felt that her hands were tied when it came to rendering the verdict, Maddy says she still struggles with the outcome of the case.

"It's hard for me to sleep, it's hard for me to eat because I feel I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death. And as I carry him on my back, I'm hurting as much Trayvon's Martin's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said.

The full interview with the juror will air on Friday on “Good Morning America.”

That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

http://www.examiner.com/article/twitter-lynch-mob-targets-zimmerman-jury-with-death-threats

Twitter lynch mob' targets Zimmerman jury with death threats
CRIME & COURTSJULY 14, 2013BY: JOE NEWBYSubscribe


George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer acquitted Saturday in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, is not the only recipient of death threats from users of Twitter. Now, some -- known as the "Twitter lynch mob" by Twitchy -- have targeted the six women who served on the jury with profane tweets that include racist slurs and death threats.


"The jury better invest in the biggest security they can people are coming after them too," one person tweeted.

"Zimmerman got the least of worries the real crazy folks are coming after the the jury for making the decision," added "God Hand."

"Somebody should kill one of the jury members sons and let the killer free, (sic)" said one Twitter user.

Twitchy said that "bloodthirsty sickos" were looking for the jurors' addresses.

"Find the address of every fool in the jury," said "JDervon."

"[S]urely somebody knows the address of the jury," added "Keith Dingle."

"I want all 6 jury folks address," demanded "korean."

"Where these jury h*es stay? Can we get they address? (sic)" asked one Twitter user.

"What's the jury address we need to kill that Mf (sic)," said "Niarbre Bank."

Some wanted the addresses of Zimmerman's attorneys while others demanded the jurors' addresses and pictures be broadcast on television so they could be easily identified and targeted.

Several demanded that members of the jury be murdered along with Zimmerman, his attorney and wife.

"The purge should be in Florida just for tonight Kill the jury Kill Zimmerman. Kill the lawyers Kill Zimmerman wife (sic)," tweeted "Kidd."

Twitchy noted that Twitter's rules prohibit the threats that have been repeatedly leveled at Zimmerman and now, members of the jury who followed the letter of Florida law.

"You may not publish or post direct, specific threats of violence against others," says Twitter's rules.

Related:

So far four jurors have distanced themselves from juror B37,
now the last juror who haven't heard from has finally spoken.

Trayvon Martin Juror B29: ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder’

Quote:

Filled with regrets and doubt, the only minority on the Florida jury made up entirely of women that found George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin says that she “can’t sleep at night.”

“George Zimmerman got away with murder,” Maddy, who declined to give her last name, said in an interview with ABC’s Robin Roberts on "Good Morning America," “but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with."

A 36-year-old of Puerto Rican decent, Maddy said that while she and many of her fellow jurors believed that Zimmerman was guilty of murdering Martin at a housing community in Sanford, Fla. on Feb. 26, “the law couldn’t prove it.”

"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," the woman, who has previously been known as Juror B29, told Roberts. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

The realization that the jury would likely not find Zimmerman guilty of second-degree murder began to set in on the second day of deliberations, Maddy said.

"As much as we were trying to find this man guilty … they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told."

The question at the center of the case was whether Zimmerman, who confessed to shooting Martin, had acted in self-defense, and was therefore justified in using his gun against the teenager.

"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

Though she felt that her hands were tied when it came to rendering the verdict, Maddy says she still struggles with the outcome of the case.

"It's hard for me to sleep, it's hard for me to eat because I feel I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death. And as I carry him on my back, I'm hurting as much Trayvon's Martin's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said.

The full interview with the juror will air on Friday on “Good Morning America.”

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 've carried handguns since age 8
for self defense and a feeling of tranquility.
Thay have never been related to sexuality in my mind.

Sex has never been discussed at any gun freedom meeting
that I know of in the last half century. Thay are usually family events
with wives and children in attendance. We discuss defensive freedom
in the law and optimal defensive hardware; sometimes including target shooting.
We discuss the political defeat of authoritarian politicians.

Sex and guns mix only in the imaginations
of those leftists who abhor liberty; harmless foolishness.

Bill Clinton was anti-gun freedom; how did his Monica and Hillary feel about gun freedom ?





David

Frank Apisa wrote:

David...do you actually think it is okay to require that we live
in a society that will allow 8 year olds to carry guns?

Truly...do you think that is okay?

Violating their 2nd Amendment rights is raping them out of their rights to live.



Your concept, Frank, is that it is OK
to violate the citizen's most fundmental Constitutional Rights
as long as u disdain his intelligence first, adding insult to injury.

The US Supreme Court has held that
he cannot even be denied a few minutes of inferior seating on a bus,
because of the Constitutional requirements of "equal protection of the laws".
Much less can citizens be raped out of their rights to defend their lives
from the predatory violence of man or beast.

In the 5 years that I lived in Arizona, my nabors were better armed than I was
(both older and younger) and we never had any trouble;
no lights and sirens at all. I respect children 's minds better than u do.





David

Ummmm...was that a "yes" or "no", David?

"I feel like we let the Martins down" says B29.....no, by upholding the law you did what you were supposed to do,
and even better at this point would be condemning the state for abusing zimmerman.

Talk about misplaced priorities!

she and many of her fellow jurors believed that Zimmerman was guilty of murdering Martin...

Zimmerman's fear was all imagined, while Martin's fear was real. Martin was just a kid being followed by a stranger.

The prosecution did a terrible job, and if I were on the jury and had to follow the judge's instructions, there was no way to find Zimmerman guilty.

Don't forget, there was none of Zimmerman's blood on Martin. NONE

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/03/george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martin-day-8

Gorgone testified that testing of Martin's hooded jacket that he was wearing as an outer layer the night of shooting did not yield much of Zimmerman's DNA. Only one stain on Martin's hooded jacket yielded a partial DNA profile that matched Zimmerman. This may challenge the claim Zimmerman and Martin were in fight for their lives, if only a minimal amount of Zimmerman's skin or blood transferred to Martin's outer clothing. Scrapings from under Martin's fingernails yielded none of Zimmerman's DNA.

Martin was also wearing a gray sweatshirt under his hooded jacket. Gorgone said two stains on that sweatshirt matched both Martin's and Zimmerman's DNA.

During cross examination, defense attorney Don West pointed out that Martin's sweatshirts were wet from rain the night of the shooting, and they were not allowed dry before they were stored in plastic bags. Gorgone said if wet evidence is not left to air dry before being stored in plastic mildew can degrade DNA evidence.

West asked, "Frankly then you just didn't find much of anything on this gray hooded sweatshirt when it boils right down to it?"

"Just that partial profile on stain A" said Gorgone.

West asked, "That was the shirt that stunk to high heaven?"

"It didn't smell good," said Gorgone.