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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
firefly
 
  2  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 08:49 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
He would not had been allowed to carry anything that could even be used as a weapon either not even a screw driver unless he could point out the screws he was planning on using it on.

Maybe real men don't need to carry weapons to feel virile.
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 08:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Will u explain how this scenario accords with your beliefs qua
the emotions or "psychological disabilities" (as u put it)
of well armed citizens, please???

"Well armed citizens"? Laughing You live in a country populated by .
other gun nuts.
You'd be a lot safer from gun violence if guns were banned.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 08:59 am
@firefly,
BillRM is full of paranoid nonsense. As long as you've got due cause you can carry whatever you want. Tools of the trade are due caue.

I never give it a second's thought, I often carry a waiter's friend, v blunt penknife with corkscrew and bottle opener, useful bit of kit. Never had a problem with it.

I can use the bottle opener to open a bottle of beer on the street, and drink it if I want to. The streets are a lot safer when the likes of BillRM aren't allowed to go out on the prowl armed with a box of kittens and a semi automatic.
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spendius
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:00 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Your poor women are not even allow a tiny container of pepper spray on a key ring as at least a token protection from being assaulted.


Such things are considered tasteless and ill-mannered here. Only neurotic and highly narcissistic ladies are obsessed with being assaulted.

Not that it never happens of course but a society which takes extreme and general precautions against very rare events is doomed.

I wouldn't give the time of day to a woman who acts like a startled sparrow all the time. Maybe your women are more scared of men than ours are. Or have seen more hysterical movies and scaremongering discussions on TV.
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:01 am
@firefly,
Quote:
He would not had been allowed to carry anything that could even be used as a weapon
either not even a screw driver unless he could point out the screws he was planning on using it on.
firefly wrote:
Maybe real men don't need to carry weapons to feel virile.
Since u choose to raise the allegation,
will u prove that virility is involved
other than in the imaginations of those who abhor liberty ???


Will it substitute for Viagra ?
firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:08 am
@spendius,
Quote:
Maybe your women are more scared of men than ours are

The ones who listen to BillRM might be...

You're forgetting that BillRM feels it's just fine to sexually assault any female who has been drinking. "Consent" is irrelevant to him. He says men should not be expected to be "the guardians of women." He forgets that men should be expected not to rape women--whether those women are drunk or sober.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:17 am
@spendius,
Quote:
Not that it never happens of course but a society which takes extreme and general precautions against very rare events is doomed.


So no smoke alarms, fire extinguishers, back up generators and on and on.

No life crafts on ships or planes either and on and on..............
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:20 am
@BillRM,
What's the gun violence rate in the U.K., BillRM?

Are the people there safer from being shot than you are?
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:21 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Maybe real men don't need to carry weapons to feel virile.
Since u choose to raise the allegation,
will u prove that virility is involved
other than in the imaginations of those who abhor liberty ???


Yes my wife needed to carry her 38 in order to feel virility and when she was carrying her riot shotgun in her plane and RV lord oh lord.........

A real man she surely is not however an adult who take precautions when out and about she happen to be.
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:24 am
@BillRM,
So your wife is as paranoid as you are. Is that a surprise?

What's the gun violence rate in the U.K., BillRM?

Are the people there safer from being shot than you are?
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:25 am
@firefly,
DAVID wrote:
Will u explain how this scenario accords with your beliefs qua
the emotions or "psychological disabilities" (as u put it)
of well armed citizens, please???
firefly wrote:
"Well armed citizens"? Laughing You live in a country populated by .
other gun nuts.
You'd be a lot safer from gun violence if guns were banned.
Even if that were true,
it woud not grant authority to government
to interfere in personal possession of guns
.
By the 2nd Amendment, government is disabled,
the same as government cannot make u go to Church on time, if u don't wanna.

1. I do not believe what u said about my safety.

2. If guns were "banned" then I 'd buy them on the blackmarket
like marijuana, or I 'd make them myself; its not hard; does not take long.
Thay have been made by hand for centuries b4 the advent of electric tools
and freely available blueprints. A lot of guys I 've known
believe that gunsmithing can be FUN! Thay have turned out good stuff, custom made!

If guns were "banned" thereby invoking the need of blackmarket gunsmiths,
then there 'd be a lot more fully automatic weapons (might as well go all the way).

AK 47s are ez to make; simple, crude and very, very reliable.
I understand that thay go for $12 in Arabian bazaars.


On the point of guns being "banned":
that woud effectively be relinquishing the LEGITIMACY of government,
worse than if elections were ended because the right to exist
is more fundamental than the right to vote.

If government effectively renounced the Bill of Rights,
then by so doing, it woud no longer have any claim upon
the allegiance of the citizenry.





David
BillRM
 
  2  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:30 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
If government effectively renounced the Bill of Rights,
then by so doing, it woud no longer have any claim upon
the allegiance of the citizenry.


Agree as if they are not going to follow the constitution they have no more moral right to govern then a group of hoodlums that got themselves in control of the resources of government.
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firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:33 am
Quote:
December 25, 2012
Editorial: Guns and manhood

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- In 1977, more than half of U.S. households had guns -- but by 2010, the ratio had dropped to less than one-third. Fewer Americans want guns, according to researchers at the University of Chicago's General Social Survey.

Yet gun sales are sky-high. How can that be? The explanation apparently is that the minority who are gun owners buy ever-more weapons, creating arsenals.

Strangely, some owners think the firepower makes them more manly.

The manufacturer of Bushmaster assault rifles -- the weapon used to kill 20 grade-school tots and six teachers in Connecticut -- created a Web site praising the manliness of its buyers. Perhaps spoofingly, it offered a "man card" to buyers.

"In a world of rapidly depleting testosterone, the Bushmaster Man Card declares and confirms that you are a man's man," the site said.

The site offered quizzes to test men's virility. One page asked viewers to choose between a kitten, a candle and a military-style assault gun. Another said cards could be revoked if the holder is a "crybaby, cupcake, coward or just unmanly." The site reported that one man's card was revoked because he "avoids eye contact with tough-looking fifth-graders."

After the Connecticut school massacre, the Bushmaster Web site was revised.

Magazine editor Paul Waldman wrote that the message is clear: "If you're anxious about your masculinity, if you aren't quite sure whether those around you find you sufficiently strong and potent," buying guns will make you a he-man. He added:

"You don't have to be a Freudian analyst to grasp the hidden meaning. It's not even subtext -- it's text. As we begin a long-overdue examination of where gun culture in America has gone, we can't avoid the way guns have become so entwined with masculine anxiety, as so many men seek to find their identity in instruments of destruction."

Even if the former Bushmaster site was a joke, it presumably touched a personality trait: Some men think guns affirm their virility. Evidently they don't feel male enough if they lack firepower.

Incidentally, it should be noted that all of America's mass shootings have been committed by males.

As Vice President Joe Biden leads hasty research into U.S. gun danger, we wonder if he will consider the testosterone factor?
http://www.wvgazette.com/Opinion/Editorials/201212250036
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:46 am
@firefly,
This sentence caught my eye, because I believed this to be true for a very long time.
Quote:
Strangely, some owners think the firepower makes them more manly.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:47 am
You can threaten Zimmerman, his family, his lawyers, the jury members and their children on the internet and nothing so far had been done.

However whatever you do do not threaten Nancy Grace!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/david-lee-simpson-threats-nancy-grace-tie-tree-naked-slit-throat_n_3647889.html

last week on charges of felony stalking and computer tampering, according to The Arizona Republic.Tweeting about tying Nancy Grace to a tree, stripping her naked and slitting her throat landed a 48-year-old New Yorker in Jail, Arizona officials say.

David Lee Simpson was allegedly infatuated and obsessed with convicted murderer Jodi Arias and was angered by the disparaging remarks about Arias made by Grace and Jane Velez-Mitchell, both anchors for Turner Broadcasting, The Leader Corning reported.

In June, Simpson allegedly posted that he would tie Grace and Velez-Mitchell to a "tree naked and leave them to suffer all night," then "slit their throats." Simpson also allegedly commented that he wanted to "gut [one of the newscasters] like a deer."

Grace and Velez-Mitchell were in Phoenix covering the Arias trial when the threats were made. Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona's Maricopa County began investigating Simpson after he became aware of the remarks.

Simpson was indicted by a Phoenix grand jury
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firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:01 am
@cicerone imposter,
Who else but an extremely inadequate male would champion the alleged "right" of another adult male to stalk an innocent minor in the dark, or to rape an intoxicated female?

BillRM has declared it's open season on women and children.

You wonder that people like that need also need a gun to feel more manly?

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firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:17 am
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As controversy surrounding the acquittal of George Zimmerman continues to make headlines throughout the county, various public figures are also continuing to show their support in memory of the late teen.

While Jay-Z and Beyonce joined Reverend Al Sharpton during a rally in New York City on Saturday, other entertainers, such as Stevie Wonder, are boycotting the state of Florida and other “stand your ground states” until officials repel the self-defense law.

Omari Hardwick is also adding his name to the list of Martin supporters through a new viral clip titled, “Little Black Boy Wonder.” The four-minute clip, which was written and produced by Hardwick, features an array of Hollywood notables including Eriq LaSalle, Marlon Wayans, David Oyelowo, Sugar Shane Mosely, Bill Duke, and Gary Dourdan among others, citing a dedication poem in honor of Martin.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/trayvon-martin-dedication-poem-omari-hardwick-little-black-boy-wonder_n_3636912.html


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firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:47 am
http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/files/2013/07/zimmerman-verdict-cartoon-darkow-495x384.jpg
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firefly
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:49 am
http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/columbiatribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/c5/1c5ed7cc-f084-11e2-8685-0019bb30f31a/51e955346f7e0.preview-500.jpg
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Baldimo
 
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Thu 25 Jul, 2013 12:25 pm
@firefly,
What's the violent crime rate in the UK firefly? Would you be surprised to know it is almost double that of the US violent crime rate?
 

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