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Paula Dean Fired By Food Network Over Racial Slur

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

"Strike hard and fast" with what? Her bigotry? LOL Maybe her roller pin.

a brand new brand dummy.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:48 pm
@engineer,
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Ok, but at this point, Deen has essentially admitted the case has merit.

She sure has. And that's why this controversy erupted after she gave her deposition and not when the lawsuit was first filed. It was what she admitted to in her deposition that was so damaging to her. When that deposition became public was when all hell broke loose for her.

There is definitely merit to the lawsuit. And her brother admitted that he engaged in sexually and racially inappropriate behavior in the workplace. She, under oath, admitted to knowing about his behavior, but all she did about it was "have conversations" with him.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
It's not the "brand" that makes any difference in her case - dummy.
Her name is "mud." Only pigs will play in the same "stuff."
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
her brand is strong enough that a lot of her customers are sticking with her, which is impressive. she has to make big changes, she has to become the poster child for the hard working inclusive modern South, but this is very doable.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
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the longer she is hidden the faster she will be forgotten and the harder it will be to come back. if she is not going to retire then she needs to strike hard and fast.

Not true. She's got a loyal fan base who will wait for her. She never had broad general appeal, her appeal was always limited to a certain segment, and that segment will be there for her. Those are the folks who are still lining up at her restaurant.

The emphasis has to shift to the Deen Family--mainly her two sons--and helping them to pick up some of what she has lost.

She's got to get out of the spotlight for a while, maybe indefinitely. Given the emotional toll this is taking on her, she probably should do that for her own mental health.

Her sons promote healthier eating than she did, they may appeal to a younger, wider demographic, and their image is more positive. They should be the faces of the Deen family that people see in the future to continue this as a viable family business. Their brand and image has to replace their momma's.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:04 pm
@firefly,
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Playing the victim made it even worse. It just comes off as self pity.


victim=black mailer

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
Never said anything about her losing her customer base; only about her losing sponsors and business connections.

Probably a small segment of her customer base will discontinue being fans, but time will tell.

I'm not in any position to make predictions about her future.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
It is a shame that her core customers are not younger as if they was she could bypass all those gatekeepers.

Put her books out as ebooks and have her cooking show on the internet and by so doing greatly cutting both her overhead and the censors ability to block her.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Her sponsors and business connections were supplying most of her income.

She wasn't living off the sale of her cookbooks or her pots and pans.

I wasn't concerned with Paula Deen's income before this brouhaha, and I'm not concerned about it now.

I'm sure she'll find something to do with herself.

This is not exactly a loss to the culinary world, and it's possible to live a happy life without being a media celebrity chef.

And she had a good enough ride financially so that she shouldn't have to worry where her next high sugar/high fat meal is coming from.

Her cruise still hasn't been cancelled, in fact, they've added another one for 2014, so there will be two next year.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2013/06/26/paula-deen-cruise/2458903/

I'll post the link so BillRM can rush to sign up for a cruise. Laughing
http://pauladeencruise.com/

Cruising is a perfect out-of-the-spotlight venue for her. She can relax, be surrounded by devoted admirers, etc.

She'll manage...

And her sons can concentrate on re-building the business empire she just lost, or building one for themselves.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:46 pm
@firefly,
I'm sure she'll manage; she's wealthier than most, and she's not about to go broke any time soon.

My anger comes up to the surface when there are people like Deen who have no sensitivities towards minorities or the people who work for her. Other people's wealth is a whole different issue that I don't concern myself with.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:55 pm
@firefly,
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I'll post the link so BillRM can rush to sign up for a cruise


Sorry I am going to settle on buying five to ten of her books for gifts.

In any case she can go on lecture tours for that matter as the PC gatekeepers would have problems blocking her from doing so.

Not every large venues would be under the control of our PC masters or Hawkeye elites. One and the same.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 05:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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My anger comes up to the surface when there are people like Deen who have no sensitivities towards minorities or the people who work for her. Other people's wealth is a whole different issue that I don't concern myself with.


I wonder how many families minorities or non minorities families that you had provided paychecks to over the years as she been doing for decades.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 06:22 pm
@BillRM,
Why does that matter to you or anybody else?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 06:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Why does that matter to you or anybody else?


In other word like me and many others you had not provide a paychecks or a living to anyone and yet you feel so very free to attacked someone who had done so for decades due to claims of a woman, who is trying for a few millions dollars payday, of mistreatment of the people she was and largely are still employing.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 06:37 pm
@BillRM,
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I wonder how many families minorities or non minorities families that you had provided paychecks to over the years as she been doing for decades.


Reflecting on the contempt Deen has displayed for her underlings/workers, who did such menial work in her restaurants, one would not be surprised if these workers did not work for slave wages and thus exploited the same way Latino immigrants are. After all, what educated person would take such verbal abuse from a boss? Chances are Deen's workers were uneducated and were glad to get whatever pay she handed out. Like can you prove these restautant workers were paid the minimum wage and received annual increases? If not all one can say is you're speculating about something you know very little about.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 06:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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My anger comes up to the surface when there are people like Deen who have no sensitivities towards minorities or the people who work for her

That's what has a lot of people angry at her right now.

She can learn, and grow, if she wants to. She really does have to understand what's not funny about those derogatory jokes about minorities she enjoys. Maybe she needs to sit down with someone from the ADL or some similar group. http://www.adl.org/about-adl/

She does need to have her own consciousness raised. I think she's been living in some kind of bubble where she's accepted offensive things without really questioning them or even thinking about them. She's just gotten a big wake-up call.

Given the unhealthful nature of the food she was peddling it's amazing that she achieved the success she did. And it's interesting that none of the contributors to this thread seems to have ever watched her Food Network shows--or no one's admitted to it. I have no idea what her appeal really was, beyond the type of dishes she cooked up. When I saw her on The View, or The Today Show, or on QVC for a few minutes, I did not find her folksy manner appealing, but other people must have. But I'd really like to know why people liked her. She's not the only Southern cook around.

Any one remember Jeff Smith, The Frugal Gourmet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Smith_(TV_personality)

He had a very popular cooking show on pbs that ran for ages, and he authored many books. I was a big fan of his, watched him regularly, and his cookbook is one I still turn to.

His career exploded with a terrible sexual abuse scandal that finished it for him.

Some things the public will forgive, some things they won't.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 06:50 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
I think Deen did pay her workers well--somewhat more than the other restaurants in the area. That provided some incentive for them to put up with verbal abuse. Also, Deen has such clout in the area, they were reluctant to complain because they were afraid they wouldn't be able to get employment elsewhere if they did.

PUSH/Rainbow went down there recently, for a day or two, and after speaking with workers or ex-workers that's what they found. They plan on doing a fuller investigation, to look for possible civil rights violations in Deen's restaurants, based on what they've already heard.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 07:01 pm
@firefly,
You are on one hell of a high horse and yet over the years I had not seen anything about you that would warrant your claims to be fit to cast god like judgments on others you love to issue.

You are nothing more then a sadist that are not able to be honest about your desires to see suffering so you look for excuses/reasons to help cause and support that suffering.

Human jackals and little else going crazy over the smell of blood of an old white southern woman.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 07:05 pm
@firefly,
What I find in my own observations about diet is that more people are getting concerned about what they eat. At least here in California. More people are paying more for natural foods over processed foods and junk food.

Even such places as Sweet Tomatoes, a vegetable buffet restaurant in town is almost always full of people, and it's not considered "cheap" for lunch or dinner.

Even places like McDonalds are looking at providing "healthier" foods on their menu.

People who watch P Deen must be the same folks that eats junk unhealthy foods most of the time, but to be honest, I'm not sure how popular she is in our area of the country.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 07:05 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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Reflecting on the contempt Deen has displayed for her underlings/workers, who did such menial work in her restaurants, one would not be surprised if these workers did not work for slave wages and thus exploited the same way Latino immigrants are


No sold proof of any of those claims but who need proof when there is a southern white woman that had been declare a fair target.

After all we all know about southern white people after all and you assholes call me a bigot.............mirror mirror on the wall.
 

 
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