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Paula Dean Fired By Food Network Over Racial Slur

 
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 12:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
"playing the victim almost always works, and should work here. she has a golden opportunity to attack corporate culture, to be the defender of the common man against forces which care nothing for justice or truth, which will play right into her personal strengths. getting attacked by the corporate lynch mob and surviving on the backs of the little people who believe in her could be damned inspirational. "

that sounds a lot like the bullshit you try to pull here at a2k.

too bad it would be just as disingenuous for her as it is for you...
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 12:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

It's not for him or me to forgive Deen; it's the people who were insulted and treated badly.


using that logic the only people who have a right to be offended by PD are people that she has personally offended, which i know you dont agree with. but any bullshit that works to make you right is AOK by you isn't it.....
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 01:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
You know Hawkeye I had known of murderers on down that had have books published by majority publishing houses and off hand I do not remember any one who had a best seller withdrawn due to the claims of the bad character of the author.

This whole thing is beyond believes and one wonder now that Randomhouse had open this can of worms if all authors will have to go before a moral board to see if their books on say car repairs or computer networking and so on can be publish.

Heinlein used to have a period call the crazy years in his books and this silliness is reminding me of those books and stories.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 01:44 pm
@BillRM,
a book publisher would want to champion free speech??

not in modern America

but then again book publishers are headed for the trashcan anyway
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 01:48 pm
@hawkeye10,
It's logical - for everybody else except you and a few other bigots on these threads.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 01:49 pm
@hawkeye10,
You don't even understand the concept of "free speech."

Publication of newspapers, magazines and books are businesses.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 02:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Publication of newspapers, magazines and books are businesses


So I was always under that impression but given that Randomhouse management had cheerfully screwed their stockholders out of millions of dollars of profit I must be wrong that they are a business.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 02:27 pm
@BillRM,
How do you know that? If the stock holders do not like what they did, they can always replace the officers of the company.

But, I bet they don't. They're more likely to be congratulated for maintaining ethics and humanity in their ranks - unlike you bigots.

FYI, Random House is doing very well without your concern.
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Random House, Inc. Company Profile
Its not-so-random acts of publishing have transformed Random House into the world's largest trade book publisher. The book publishing subsidiary of media giant Bertelsmann, Random House operates its eponymous imprint and some 200 others such as Alfred A. Knopf, Ballantine, Bantam, Dell, and Doubleday. Its top-sellers include Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code, and its stable of authors includes Elmore Leonard, Toni Morrison, and Dr. Seuss. In addition, the company publishes Fodor's popular travel books, audio products, and electronic books. Outside the US, Random House oversees publishers such as McClelland & Stewart (Canada) and Plaza & Jan�s (Spain). In 2012 it announced plans to combine with The Penguin Group.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 02:39 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

So I was always under that impression but given that Randomhouse management had cheerfully screwed their stockholders out of millions of dollars of profit I must be wrong that they are a business.
Randomhouse is privately owned by the Bertelsmann Foundation (a a non-profit organisation and political think tank founded by the Mohn family) and the Mohn family. The owners used the profit (185 million Euros) to compensate losses they'd got e.g. with 'Brown Printing' and the 'Financial Times'.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 02:51 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
es'.Randomhouse is privately owned by the Bertelsmann Foundation (a a non-profit organisation and political think tank founded by th e Mohn family) and the Mohn family. The owners used the profit (185 million Euros) to compensate losses they'd got e.g. with 'Brown Printing' and the 'Financial Tim


Thank for the information so they are not a public stock company how interesting to know that but are own by a rich family instead.

At least I do not have to feel sorry for their shareholders.

Still it going to be interesting and fun to keep an eye on the moral characters of their future authors now that they had announced to the world that in order to be published by them there is a moral test that need to be pass.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 03:10 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Thank for the information so they are not a public stock company how interesting to know that but are own by a rich family instead.
That has never been a secret. And the Forbes lists of the richest people aren't secret either.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 03:27 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
That has never been a secret. And the Forbes lists of the richest people aren't secret either


So once more thanks for the information however are you implying that I should had known this without first doing research or that the ownership of Random house is commonly known by the public even if not a secret?
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engineer
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:11 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Dean is accused of not enforcing workplace standards against sexual and racial harassment.

The word here that is key is accused and by a woman who is trying to gain millions.

Ok, but at this point, Deen has essentially admitted the case has merit.
engineer
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
she needs to fix that instead of playing the victim.

playing the victim almost always works, and should work here.

But it clearly isn't working. She's losing endorsements after playing the victim, not before.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:32 pm
@engineer,
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Ok, but at this point, Deen has essentially admitted the case has merit.


WRONG she admitted that 30 years ago she used the n word toward some asshole that had just held a gun to her head.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:34 pm
@BillRM,
STUPID. TNCFS
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:35 pm
@engineer,
Playing the victim made it even worse. It just comes off as self pity.

She's got to take responsibility for her workplace actions, as they were revealed in that deposition, and show some awareness of why those things were wrong, so that people can believe her apologies and believe that her attitudes and future behavior will change.

She may be limited in what she can say right now because that lawsuit is still in court.

The best thing she could do at the moment is shut up, lay low, and just let the publicity die down.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:38 pm
@firefly,
the longer she is hidden the faster she will be forgotten and the harder it will be to come back. if she is not going to retire then she needs to strike hard and fast.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
"Strike hard and fast" with what? Her bigotry? LOL Maybe her roller pin.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jun, 2013 04:43 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
she needs to fix that instead of playing the victim.

playing the victim almost always works, and should work here.

But it clearly isn't working. She's losing endorsements after playing the victim, not before.

and so long as the corporate class has already disowned her she might as well make positive use of it, turn lemons into lemonaid. the elite are already very disliked by a lot of her core fans, now that she is free to attack the elites she should be able to ride that gravy train till she kicks.
 

 
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