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Racist heckler and my bad response

 
 
Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 07:22 am
My 14 yr old gets put on the mound and has never pitched before (14-16 yr olds). After his second inning he flips off the other team. He tell me that some jerk is talking crap (Chinaman cant throw...etc..) from outside the fence. I approach the 17year old and ask what his problem?

This shows no remorse and it turns out his brother is part of the opposing team. He tells me to go ahead and hit him since he's a minor of 17. I offer to have my son come over and take care of him. After some more heated words I walk away hearing his BS with each step.

My son walks over to me ready to fight and pulling out his bat, he was that mad. I take the bat out of his hands but tell him to go ahead and get him. I know - totally irresponsible and poor parenting. It's just when the racial stuff gets put out there I lose sight of my better judgement. My son has wrestled for years and has no problems handling himself. On the ride home he was crying about the whole thing...I was holding back my emotions as well.

A friend said it didn't matter what we did. If we walked away or fought, we would have both felt terrible. He is absolutely right.

I guess I'm looking for some comments or maybe some answers to help me get beyond this.
 
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 07:27 am
@Trying2turnmycheek,
Where were the adult supervision for the other team? You should have addressed this issue with them and have them deal with this jerk/racist hooligan.
Trying2turnmycheek
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 08:02 am
@tsarstepan,
I seemed apparent that the other team thought his comments were okay. If my son heard the comments from the mound, I'm sure the coaches heard from the dugout. the Third base coach was right there!
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 08:29 am
@Trying2turnmycheek,
You should have talked to the umpire. He's responsible for order on the field and can remove unruly spectators.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 10:23 am
Yeah, my mother wore combat boots. So what!
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 11:03 am
@Trying2turnmycheek,
So did your kid beat up that kid?

If not, you need to contact the league that sponsors the team and tell them what happened. They'll take it up with the coaches.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2013 11:17 am
@Trying2turnmycheek,
When an event occurs in your presence,
u can choose whether to address it, with or without emotion.

If u opt to employ an emotion, then u can SELECT which emotion to apply.

U shud be cognizant of your ability to do that.
Among your options is to relinquish dispassionate logic & tranquility,
and to abandon yourself to emotion. I don't recommend it.

Is it wise to learn from your mistakes ?





David
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Trying2turnmycheek
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2013 09:38 am
@Trying2turnmycheek,
HA - I just found out that the coach is the father of the kid spewing racist comments. When I was having words with the instagator...and he was acting like and ass and things got heated....he did and said nothing at all!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2013 06:39 pm
@Trying2turnmycheek,
Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
HA - I just found out that the coach is the father of the kid spewing racist comments.
When I was having words with the instagator...and he was acting like and ass and things got heated....
he did and said nothing at all!
Is it wise
to take it SERIOUSLY ?

Shud HE govern your emotions ?





David
Trying2turnmycheek
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jun, 2013 04:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Don't think for a moment that I DON'T take this seriously. The fact that the father was the coach and said nothing seems as though the racist sentiments were not just in the small mind of a kid, but derived from the poisoned values of his father.

Yes, I should have walked away and taken my son with me. But at what point does someone stand up or do we always accept the dish being served? How much is a person expected to swallow? Do we try to convince ourselves that those who race bait and spout hate will eventually see the light or meet some sort of "karma"?

To merely say that emotions must be controlled seems overly simplistic and ignores the years of studies attempting to understand even the most simple of emotions.
Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jun, 2013 05:08 pm
@Trying2turnmycheek,
Trying2turnmycheek wrote:

Yes, I should have walked away and taken my son with me. But at what point does someone stand up or do we always accept the dish being served? How much is a person expected to swallow? Do we try to convince ourselves that those who race bait and spout hate will eventually see the light or meet some sort of "karma"?



In my opinion, a) we have no "honor" that can be disrespected, b) No one is swallowing anything, since "sticks and stones can break your bones, but words can never harm you." (A 20th century, or earlier, children's rhyme), and c) There is no need to convince oneself that anyone will change their opinion. "Acting out" might just become "covert" when a municipality passes "hate crime" legislation, but few, or no minds are being changed.

Read a little about what Jackie Robinson had to endure.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 04:44 pm
@Trying2turnmycheek,
Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
Don't think for a moment that I DON'T take this seriously.
Your posts make it very clear
that u take it very seriously; in my opinion,
it 'd be wiser to avoid taking it seriously.

U have the mental ability to CHOOSE
the emotion with which u will address an event in the outside world.
Its better to select JOY than misery, in response
to these 2 fellows.

Woud thay prefer that u and your son be joyful or miserable ??
Shud u acquiesce to their wishes?? I don't think u shud.





Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
The fact that the father was the coach and said nothing seems
as though the racist sentiments were not just in the small mind
of a kid, but derived from the poisoned values of his father.
Thay have as much right to adopt values of their own preference as u do or I do.
I have always LIKED the Chinese, and done well with them,
but the baseball players do not have to agree with me about anything.
Its a free country. Everyone believes what he wants to believe
and he has the right to express his beliefs.





Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
Yes, I should have walked away and taken my son with me.
But at what point does someone stand up or do we always accept
the dish being served? How much is a person expected to swallow?
I suggest treating them like loud dogs.
U need not hate the dogs, nor obsess about the dogs;
better to forget it.

Let me bring out another point:
I know very, very little about baseball
and I have no interest in it (waste of time),
but I am under the impression that one team
goes out of its way to shout things to annoy
the other team, to make them un-comfortable,
to get them off-balance, in an effort to reduce
the chances of their performing optimally in baseball.
Both sides do it. With all respect, it looks like thay succeeded in that task.





Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
Do we try to convince ourselves that those who race bait
and spout hate will eventually see the light or meet some sort of "karma"?
No; thay may not.
Accept it like bad weather.






Trying2turnmycheek wrote:
To merely say that emotions must be controlled seems overly simplistic
and ignores the years of studies attempting to understand even the most simple of emotions.
I know of no studies.
How well were thay done??
What did those studies prove??
Did the studiers begin with chosen conclusions beforehand,
or achieve dispassionate, analytically objective results ?

Are there other studies that reached different conclusions ?
or is there a unanimous consensus ?
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