BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2004 11:36 am
ILZ
ILZ, well, I guess I'd better just sulk off to my room to leave more space for you to post your empirical wisdom.

Sigh. BBB Crying or Very sad
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2004 12:38 pm
Here's a nice article about Clarke and the Commission in general:

Quote:
The trouble with Clarke's sales pitch

March 30, 2004

BY JOHN O'SULLIVAN

What are the Sept. 11 hearings supposed to accomplish? Their formal purpose is to establish how al-Qaida's terrorist attacks happened, to establish why the U.S. government failed to prevent them, and to suggest how our intelligence, police and military services should prevent such attacks in the future.

But these questions -- though they are discussed in the hearings -- are not really the focus of media coverage and popular attention unless they happen to have a bearing on either partisan politics or cultural fashion. There has been relatively little interest in al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden -- and, not coincidentally, very little patriotic anger directed at them -- in the hearings. Almost all the emphasis has been on American failures and in particular on the Bush administration.

Al-Qaida's attacks are treated as natural catastrophes such as an earthquake. They simply happen. If they succeed in destroying our homes, then the fault belongs to us for not installing anti-earthquake technology. Thus former anti-terrorism adviser Richard Clarke is widely praised for apologizing for the failure to prevent 9/11. Yet 9/11 was an act committed by radical Islamist terrorists who deliberately sought out the weak links in our defenses. Clarke had sought valiantly to prevent it -- that was the theme of his testimony -- but he admitted that his proposals would not have succeeded. So the net effect of his apology was to shift the blame from al-Qaida to others in government who might have been negligent in averting the terrorist threat. And the fickle finger of suspicion pointed to -- President Bush and everyone in his national security team except Clarke.

Try to imagine hearings on Pearl Harbor in which imperial Japan's aggression was passed over lightly and America's anger was directed at President Roosevelt for not warding off the attack. Roosevelt avoided any such danger by two decisive actions. He postponed an inquiry into the war until it was won and he dismissed the commander of the Pacific fleet on the grounds that Pearl Harbor was his responsibility in the chain of command if not in fact. These acts directed the American people, including FDR's political opponents, towards concentrating on defeating a ruthless and resourceful enemy.

What the hearings suggest is that many people in Washington are reluctant to face the fact that America faces such an enemy today. Maybe that enemy is not ultimately as powerful as imperial Japan. But it has succeeded in striking a harder blow at the American mainland than Japan managed.

If Osama is not the enemy, who is? Like Clarke, many in the media would like to pin the blame for 9/11 on the Bush administration. Democrats are tempted to go along with this theory. Yet this charge was never going to stick -- for a very simple reason. Bush had been in office only eight months when al-Qaida struck, whereas President Clinton had been in office for eight years during which the USS Cole and the World Trade Center were bombed. It strains credulity to suggest that Bush should have worked up a plan to destroy al-Qaida in less than a year when Clinton had failed to produce one in almost a decade.

There was a ingenious but brief attempt to suggest that Clinton had handed Bush "a plan" to do just that, which Bush had then cast aside negligently. If that had been so, it would have shown Clinton in a worse light than Bush -- postponing courageous action until the very moment when his successor arrived to risk the consequences. To be fair to Clinton, however, it was not true. There was no U.S. plan to attack al-Qaida in safe havens such as Afghanistan -- merely a set of lesser anti-terrorist policies that the Bush administration had then faithfully followed.

This became clear as the week went on and the fine print in Clarke's testimony exonerated the Bush administration from advance culpability for Sept. 11. The attack then switched to Bush's post-9/11 supposed obsession with Iraq that diverted him from fighting al-Qaida. Clarke's little vignette -- in which Bush darkly suggested that he might try finding out if Iraq had a hand in 9/11 -- was held to be damning. How short memories are! The United States invaded Afghanistan, overturned the Taliban regime, killed or captured large numbers of terrorists, and sent bin Laden on his underground travels only two years ago. Iraq came later.

How can we explain this eager suspicion of Bush against the evidence -- this drive to blame hidden enemies at home rather than declared ones abroad for the Pearl Harbors of our day? Since Pearl Harbor many Americans, especially the cultural elites and the left, have overcome patriotism. They like to think of themselves as citizens of the world above petty national prejudices. But in practice they are merely inverted patriots who tend to take the opposite side in any foreign quarrel.

They cannot, of course, take bin Laden's side over 9/11. Their alienation does not bite quite so deep. So they react in two other ways. They side with France and Germany over how to handle the war on terror. And they seek reasons to blame America for attacks upon itself. Their ire is especially excited by a U.S. administration that strikes a patriotic note like the Bush administration. But they are a greater danger to the Democrats. For if the Democrats go along with the inverted patriots in their ranks, they will discover in November just how small is the number of voters they represent.

Chicago Sun-Times
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2004 12:49 pm
Quote:
SECRETARY POWELL: In my judgment, it is the charge that somehow the Administration that was leaving office, which focused on law enforcement and diplomatic activities, was dealing with this problem with greater energy and urgency and immediacy than the new Administration coming in. I'm sorry, that is not the case. Mr. Clarke may not have been happy with the kinds of meetings that were being held or which meetings he went to, but this President was seized with the problem.


tarantulas

A post the size and nature of Powell's interview is almost useless here. Should I paste Clarke's book? You could take the position that Powell says one thing and Clarke says another thing, so there's no way we can conclude who might be speaking more accurately and honestly. And that's just not good enough. When you read the book, I'll be happy to get into specifics with you.
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2004 12:56 pm
I don't have to read Clarke's book (and I won't) to discuss his testimony. Secretary Powell wasn't discussing the book either.

If you don't want to read Powell's entire interview, just read the parts I highlighted for you. Wink
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2004 03:14 pm
Re: ILZ
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
ILZ, well, I guess I'd better just sulk off to my room to leave more space for you to post your empirical wisdom.


Awesome.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Mar, 2004 11:06 am
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Mar, 2004 07:53 pm
Found notes may show Bush plan on Clarke
Found notes may show Bush plan on Clarke
By Pamela Hess
UPI Pentagon Ccorrespondent

WASHINGTON, March 31 (UPI) -- The White House was worried about the damaging testimony of a former counter-terrorism chief to a commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks last week but was trying to let the issue die on its own, according to Pentagon briefing notes found at a Washington coffee shop.

"Stay inside the lines. We don't need to puff this (up). We need (to) be careful as hell about it," the handwritten notes say. "This thing will go away soon and what will keep it alive will be one of us going over the line."

The notes were written by Pentagon political appointee Eric Ruff who left them in a Starbucks coffee shop in Dupont Circle, not far from U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's home.

The notes are genuine, a Pentagon official said. They were compiled for an early morning briefing for Rumsfeld before the Sunday morning talk shows, during which administration officials conducted a flurry of interviews to counter the testimony of Richard Clarke, President George W. Bush's former terrorism czar who left the post in 2003. Rumsfeld appeared on Fox and ABC.

The Starbucks customer who found them gave them to the liberal advocacy group the Center for American Progress, which published them on its Web site Wednesday. Included in the notes was a hand-drawn map to Rumsfeld's house, which is largely blacked out on the Web site for security reasons.

Clarke told the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that the White House was obsessed with Iraq and ignored warning from him and others that al-Qaida was the real threat to the United States. Bush signed an order Sept. 17 directing the Pentagon to begin planning military options for an invasion of Iraq, the commission staff reported.

The Starbucks notes, printed on paper titled "Eric's Telephone Log" with a notation indicating the points came from a conference call, counseled to "rise above Clark" and "emphasize importance of 9-11 commission and come back to what we have done."

Since the notes were found, however, the White House has decided to allow national security adviser Condoleezza Rice to testify before the committee under oath. She will provide a direct answer to Clarke's account.

Rice answered Clarke's allegations in media appearances last week but declined to provide sworn public testimony to the panel, saying it set a dangerous precedent for the separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches of government.

One of Clarke's most damaging allegations is that he crafted an anti-terrorism plan -- a National Security Presidential Directive -- to take on al-Qaida in January 2001. The NSPD was not approved until Sept. 4, and neither was it substantially changed in the intervening months, according to Clarke. He has challenged the White House to release both documents to allow for a side-by-side comparison.

The notes address this matter, saying the plan to attack the Taliban existed before Sept. 4.

"The NSPD wasn't signed till Sept. 4 but had an annex going back to July (with) contingency plans to attack Taliban," the notes say.

That point is related to another in the notes. The briefing says commission member Jamie Gorelick, a former general counsel of the Defense Department under President Clinton, was pitting Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage against Rice. Under sworn testimony, Armitage contradicted Rice's claim the White House had a strategy before Sept. 11 that called for military operations against al-Qaida and the Taliban.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Mar, 2004 07:57 pm
Found at Starbucks: The Pentagon's Papers
Found at Starbucks: The Pentagon's Papers
March 31, 2004
9/11 Commission:
Coverage From American Progress

As most of America slept early last Sunday morning, the Bush administration hustled and bustled to prepare for the Sunday morning talk shows - among others Colin Powell was appearing on "Face the Nation" and Donald Rumsfeld was booked on "Fox News Sunday." Condoleezza Rice was not scheduled to appear until prime time, when she would make a star appearance on CBS' "60 Minutes" - the last in a long line of media appearances that caused 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben Veniste to quip that "Condi Rice has appeared everywhere but at my local Starbucks."

Well, others in the Bush administration did, apparently, make an appearance at the local Starbucks. And as the Washington Post reports today, one of them - obviously readying himself to prep Defense Secretary Rumsfeld - left his notes on the table. Talking points, hand-written notes on spin tactics that reveal the White House was worried about former Bush adviser Richard Clarke's charges, and a hand-drawn map to the Secretary's house were found by a resident of DuPont Circle, who made them available to the Center for American Progress. The name of said resident is being withheld at his request, as he fears that he may be accused on national television of being "disgruntled."
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