@Setanta,
Quote:What a great braying jackass. There is no "light" to be seen in anything you post.
I just said I was happy you saw the light. You are inventing the "in your post" part.
I said so because you agree with me that:
Quote:there were some religious loony running around Palestine 2000 years ago named Yeshua who was haranguing the people about the kingdom of god.
That is therefore officially agreed between us. You even say that "that was a no-brainer". I agree.
I agree soooo much that this is EXACTLY what I have been saying in my posts FOREVER. You would know that if you deign to read them. (but you won't because of course there is no "light" in them whatsoever) Please find below for ease of reference a little selection of my recent posts. The similar point has been made by many other posters. The debate has been framed by this question for WEEKS.
You're just trying to change the goal post now...
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Sat 12 Jul, 2014 09:55 am
@edgarblythe,
You mean like any legend grows over time. That is evidently the case for Jesus. But the question we are dealing with then becomes: was there a real man at the onset if the legend?...
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 03:52 pm
@izzythepush,
I'm just saying: either the boy Jeebus is based on a real character, or he is entirely fictional. Which option is the least improbable? The first one...
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@MontereyJack,
To me, Elvis had the charisma of a dishwasher. But his 'resurrection' is interesting when trying to understand Jesus' 'resurrection'. Apparently, when too many people love you too much, you just can't die...
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 01:07 pm
@izzythepush,
In this [judea circa 1st century] messianic fever, there was no need to invent a savior ex nada: the place was full of candidates.
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 01:52 pm
@izzythepush,
So it boils down to: was this guy more or less who the texts point toward, or was this guy(s) totally different from what the texts say. [...] I can agree they have a lot of legend in them, but it seems to me gratuitous, logically almost laughable, and certainly unfair to the facts we have, to assume they are wholly fictitious.
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 10:16 am
@Setanta,
I haven't seen you address:
[...]
4) the argument that a conspiracy is very hard to fathom. [...] The alternative scenario --
that there existed a dude called something like Yeshu or Yeshuah at some point in Galilee who blew a mystical fuse and ended up on a cross for it -- seems much more believable to me.
So we agree... That's great news. And it was a NO-BRAINER FROM THE FUCKIN' Start.
Now who else here agrees with that version of events?