Did Jesus Actually Exist?

I assume you are talking about the Catholic Church?

I'm not sure that he or his disciples intended to or did start one. Jesus just told them to go around telling people what he said. They did that but for the most part were too busy to start a religion. The religion that eventually got going didn't resemble what Jesus said.

@Leadfoot,
What do you suppose Jesus purpose was Lead?

. . . Was Jesus' intent to create a religion apart from Judaism? Or did disciples and church leaders do that on their own after his death? . . .

And by means of your seed all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice. (Genesis 22:18)

31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord. (Jeremiah 31:31 NIV)

And he will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.

The 'Birmingham Koran' fragment that could shake Islam after carbon-dating suggests it is OLDER than the Prophet Muhammad

By Jennifer Newton for Mailonline
31 August 2015

Fragments of the world's oldest Koran, found in Birmingham last month, may predate the Prophet Muhammad and could even rewrite the early history of Islam, according to scholars.

The fragments of the Koran then lay undiscovered until they were sent for radio carbon dating at the University of Oxford.

The pages, thought to be between 1,448 and 1,371 years old, were discovered bound within the pages of another Koran from the late seventh century at the library of the University of Birmingham.

Written in ink in an early form of Arabic script on parchment made from animal skin, the pages contain parts of the Suras, or chapters, 18 to 20, which may have been written by someone who actually knew the Prophet Muhammad - founder of the Islamic faith.

The pages were carbon-dated by experts at the University of Oxford, a process which showed the Islamic holy book manuscript could be the oldest Koran in the world. The discovery was said to be particularly significant as in the early years of Islam, the Koran was thought to have been memorised and passed down orally rather than written.

But now several historians have said that the parchment might even predate Muhammad.

It is believed that the Birmingham Koran was produced between 568AD and 645AD, while the dates usually given for Muhammad are between 570AD and 632AD.

Historian Tom Holland, told the Times: 'It destabilises, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged - and that in turn has implications for the history of Muhammad and the Companions.'

Keith Small, from the University of Oxford's Bodleian Library, added: 'This gives more ground to what have been peripheral views of the Koran's genesis, like that Muhammad and his early followers used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven.

However, these claims are strongly disputed by Muslim scholars, with Mustafa Shah from the School of Oriental and African Studies in London also telling the paper: 'If anything, the manuscript has consolidated traditional accounts of the Koran's origins.'

I believe in Jesus and i believe that Jesus Actually Exist.

I am in agreement with degrees of what you say, what of the messiah title attributed to Jesus? do you believe Jesus was the Messiah the Israelites had been waiting for? If so, what do you think that entailed?

Also, what are your thoughts on Luke 4:43?

I'll have to look them up but there are in fact a few 'hard' signs that he lived here awhile. I think it was Caligula's ( Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus) scribe who mentioned Jesus in one of his reports that was found intact. There are a couple of others too.

Leadfoot wrote:

I'll have to look them up but there are in fact a few 'hard' signs that he lived here awhile. I think it was Caligula's ( Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus) scribe who mentioned Jesus in one of his reports that was found intact. There are a couple of others too.

timur says:
Signs" are not evidence of the existence of Jesus.

Any real proof?