How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

@Leadfoot,

Leadfoot wrote:

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The study was to determine if there was an effect from participation in religious activities.

That's it.

If you don't think the writers and the average reader of that study

the authors and average readers of the study are academics - not general members of the public. The academics understand what the research was about and what the results were.

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@ehBeth,

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Few people confuse participation in religious activities with belief in god/s.

ehBeth, may I introduce you to FBM.. He is far from alone.

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@Leadfoot,

If FBM doesn't know the difference between believing in god/s and participating in religious activities I'll be quite surprised.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

The purpose of the study was well defined.

Belief in god/s was not part of the study.

This is irrelevant to the definition of the word "belief."

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@Leadfoot,

Leadfoot wrote:

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The study was to determine if there was an effect from participation in religious activities.

That's it.

If you don't think the writers and the average reader of that study associated 'participation in religious activities' with a belief in God, you are kidding yourself.

If you think you're able to read the minds of the writers and "average" readers of that study, you're the one who's kidding himself. Speak for yourself.

And I notice you skipped over this little gem in order to keep your red herring going:

FBM wrote:

People have various takes on the connations of words. No news there. What does any of this have to do with whether or not your god hypothesis has any rational (read: empirical + necessary inference) support? Whether or not this thing/entity even exists? Smells like a red herring to me.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

If FBM doesn't know the difference between believing in god/s and participating in religious activities I'll be quite surprised.

So would I. He's setting up a straw man to facilitate his red herring. The study shows that fewer and fewer young people are falling for the Bronze Age myths. That seems to scare LF and the best he can come up with is this fabricated issue about semantics. Weak.

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@InfraBlue,

the point was that the purpose of the study was defined - it was about religiosity/religious practice - not belief in god/s

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I will let A2K readers who have follwed this and other threads decide for themselves what positions we all have taken. Did too - did not back & forth is a waste of time.

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@Leadfoot,

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Did too - did not back & forth is a waste of time.

Is not.

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@Leadfoot,

Leadfoot wrote:

I will let A2K readers who have follwed this and other threads decide for themselves what positions we all have taken.

it's likely best if people express their positions rather than let others miscommunicate them <as noted above by FBM>

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@ehBeth,

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it's likely best if people express their positions rather than let others miscommunicate them <as noted above by FBM>

Ummm... That's what I said. If they followed the threads and read our own words, they have heard our previously expressed positions.

Unless you are suggesting you want to change yours now ...

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@ehBeth,

Thank you for clarifying your point.

I don't see, however, how you tie that in with the definition of the word "religious," seeing as how the study doesn't define the word, contrary to your assertion.

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@InfraBlue,

Is what you get when you dancing on the celling !
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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

What is a feeling anyway?

Let me fix that for you:

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@reasoning logic,

why would it matter?

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@reasoning logic,

should God exist, he is still the most crooked wicked criminal to ever be,

heaven? based on his atrocities, one can predict him to punish the religiously righteous, just for the sake of cruelty and wickedness,

i wouldn't trust god with a rotten penny.

hell? not in your control the slightest bit,
he cannot punish you ,since it's gonna be a beating,

a beating?

nothing you can do to appease him, following his dictates, won't provide an iota of protection,

not with this wicked monster, disappointing you the devotee, is way more fun then just keeping his word to the atheist.

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@think rethink,

Thanks for a well researched and scholarly post.

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@think rethink,

I am for all practical purposes, an atheist, but your pot shot "nature is bad cause I can't grasp complexity" is laughable !

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@think rethink,

think rethink wrote:

should God exist, he is still the most crooked wicked criminal to ever be,

heaven? based on his atrocities, one can predict him to punish the religiously righteous, just for the sake of cruelty and wickedness,

i wouldn't trust god with a rotten penny.

hell? not in your control the slightest bit,
he cannot punish you ,since it's gonna be a beating,

a beating?

nothing you can do to appease him, following his dictates, won't provide an iota of protection,

not with this wicked monster, disappointing you the devotee, is way more fun then just keeping his word to the atheist.

You seem to be fixating on the cartoon god of the Bible.

Do you have anything to say about gods in general?

Do you think gods are not possible?

Do you discount any possibility that what we human call "the universe" was brought into existence by something that existed before it did?

Just wondering.

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It is hard to find something positive to say about Religions in general. It's all too easy to point out lots of backward thinking, strife and discrimination that can all be laid at the feet of the major world Religions.

I suppose one thing that religion does though is give hope, although that is for each 'believing' person to determine for themselves. It's a pretty powerful concept, hope. It shouldn't be discarded as trivial or non-consequential. Perhaps religion can also allow 'believers' to have a bit of control over their destiny, by means of certain rituals.

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