How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

Frank

I like your moxy and your arguments (although I don't often agree with them)

Fil is clearly intelligent and learned and yet he has succumbed to the temptation of wielding obscurity as a method to advance his ego.

You really don't need to respond to each and every post.

It could very well had happened to me or anyone else...I would delete it in your place...

Don't be a spoil what do you have against poetry Fin ?
(For your information I have the best impression of Frank)

Nothing.

I love poetry.

I'm just not particularly fond of the poet who lays claim to not only a greater knowledge, but The Knowledge.

No Fin I just need fuel to think...believing my hypothesis with some naive enthusiasm is nothing but a walking stick to entertain my brain...I am also incorrigibly provocative and sometimes emotionally reactive...that being said yes I sometimes really think I have better and larger explanations although my inability to write them orderly doesn't help much...

Fil Albuquerque Have I ever told you that I find value in your intellectual honesty even though we do not see eye to eye? My mother is a theist and I love her dearly even though we do not see eye to eye but yet we still have a great relationship that is built upon intellectual honesty.

Yes indeed.

We are cousins.

Most atheists are not "vehement" unless interfered with by believers. They are simply bemused by the extent of "The Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome. The hypothesis that "non-belief" is "inhuman" is another myth promoted by the Emperor's tailors. Altruistic and caring tendencies can be observed in species unfettered by "religion" and may even be transmitted genetically.

Take the expression "non belief" to a larger context and you bet your azz it is inhuman alright...our brains are hardwired to see patterns where sometimes there is none..as far as I know the tale, such competence is justified in an evolutionary advantage...while believing will prone you to action doubt and hesitation might get you in big trouble...Religion is one of the cultural expressions of our intrinsic hard wiring to believe the invisible, associated with our moral needs and an intuition of Unity, a Cosmogony...of course none of it impedes, that "non believers" in any particular religious credo don't have a moral campus...nor that they are non believers in lato senso !

PS - It is not a good idea to doubt there is a Lion in the high grass even if it might be just the wind...

we can't say that all religions are wrong, its depend on your mentality...

I can't think of any religion that it is plain wrong per se, but rather on wrong doings through their historical development, a statistical natural process...although some averagely might be more effective then others in providing group identity in their social moral role, religions need to be overall efficient to rank up from initial cult status...

Your PS depends on knowing how "a lion" looks and acts. It is predicated on the human modus operandi of attempting universal prediction and control.

You need to consider where you got "your mentality" from.

The PS is mine but the content is well know in the academic mediums...the guessing is not on knowing what a lion does but on deciding in a split second if he is there when you hear the wind whistle in the grass...doubters were goners...attempts on prediction and control use all methods including guessing when guessing is useful...

If I suggested that all atheists hate religion, your response might be appropriate.

I've also not suggested that atheists are inhuman or incapable of altruism.

Believe me fresco, I don't have an axe to grind with atheists, per se. I understand where they are coming from and I don't for one second, believe their atheism is foolish, horrendous, crazy etc etc etc

I do have a problem with people who claim to be atheists and who ridicule, mock, hate etc etc etc those who believe in God.

So, everyone who believes in God is a slave to the genetic programming of pattern recognition?

No, of course not...there are several possible conceptions of God and several aspects to God talk who must be distinguished...I would recon that a certain obscure vision of God might have something to do with such heritage...for certain you understand that Einstein's conception for instance does not belong in such category...I like to think mine neither...

Forgive me for not knowing your biography, but is English a second (or third or fourth) language for you?

If you mean like bilingual then no, learned in school entirely, with some short term passage to London...I know its terrible, and gets worse because "laizy me" often jumps and spares on grammar...Biographically I have a German (Kreisler) Portuguese (Afonso de Albuquerque) heritage on the context of 2 world war, but no close relation with the culture or my grandmothers language...

Yet another obscure answer.

Let's try again: Is English your native language?