How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

NealNealNeal wrote:

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Frank,
I know that God exists.

You absolutely DO NOT KNOW that a god exists, Neal. You think a god exists; blindly guess that a god exists.

Develop the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that you do not KNOW it.
I know that Good exists. Your demand that I not tell you that is reminiscent of the Spanish Inquisition. ;-)

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I know that Christianity is correct.

Bullshit!

You think Christianity is "correct." You blindly guess that Christianity is "correct."

Develop the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that you do not KNOW it.

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I know that reality consists of both physical reality and spiritual reality. You are confused about spiritual reality.

You are confusing "knowing" with "blindly guessing."

Stop doing that.

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Faith is involved in the Christian's life. I trust God as He leads me in my life.
Matthew 7:6 is a verse that I tend to ignore. I now realize why Jesus made such a statement.

Yes, you blindly guess that a god exists...that the god is the one described in the Bible...and that you must insist that your blind guess is correct.

I get that. I suspect we all get that...except you.

Okay...you quoted what I said.

But you did not comment in agreement or disagreement.

I expect disagreement...but I am not sure what you are disagreeing with.

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@izzythepush,

I own a gun to protect my family from harm. The reason for this is because leftists want to take away the protection that our police provide. For almost 63 years I did not own a gun.
People like you turn moderates into conservatives due to disgusting with what you say and do.

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@NealNealNeal,

Bullshit.

If you have a gun you are responsible for the deaths of innocents in America.

At least have the guts to admit it.

You are putting your own need to have a good gun above the lives of children.

I don’t have, and never will, have a gun because I believe in a child’s right to life.

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@izzythepush,

Jesus was not a socialist. He spoke almost exclusively about how an individual should live. The only exception was when He said "give to God what is God's and to Caesar what is Caesar's".
I am trying to multitask when I write in this site. I apologise for my spelling mistakes.

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@NealNealNeal,

Spoken like a true anti Christ.

All that talk about camels and needles was just a joke.

You worship Mammon, not Christ.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

People like you turn moderates into conservatives due to disgusting with what you say and do.

People like you struggle to write a basic sentence.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank,
I know that God exists.
I know that Christianity is correct.
For whatever reason, God has not revealed these two truths to you. However, He has revealed these two truths to me.
Why don't we just leave it at that?

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@izzythepush,

Izzy
If my difficulty with my vision and using autoword offends you so much, I apologise.

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@NealNealNeal,

Rubbish, now you’re playing the victim.

And you’re far from that.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Jesus was not a socialist. He spoke almost exclusively about how an individual should live. The only exception was when He said "give to God what is God's and to Caesar what is Caesar's".
I am trying to multitask when I write in this site. I apologise for my spelling mistakes.

Your spelling mistakes are not the problem, Neal. Your thinking mistakes are.

Jesus WAS much, much, much closer to what is now called a socialist or a communist...than to what is now called a "right of center" in America.

Jesus would have been appalled that people who supposedly follow his teachings...are part of the American right. He would have been appalled by their rank hypocrisy.

You just cannot acknowledge it.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Frank,
I know that God exists.

YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT ANY GODS EXIST. You blindly guess that at least one does...and you blindly guess about its nature.

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I know that Christianity is correct.

You do not KNOW that Christianity is "correct." If you suppose that Christianity is "correct"...stop shitting on it. Treat it with a bit more respect.

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For whatever reason, God has not revealed these two truths to you. However, He has revealed these two truths to me.

If you think a god has "revealed" itself to you...you are almost certainly delusional. In any case, you CANNOT know you are not delusional...so you cannot KNOW any gods exist.

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Why don't we just leave it at that?

Not if you intend to peddle that crap here in an Internet forum. NEVER if you intend to peddle that crap here.

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@Frank Apisa,

Concerning socialism:
If you are talking about the INDIVIDUAL being generous in sharing the blessings provided to him by GOD then you are correct.
It seems to me that Christians have been quite generous. I know of no other people who give of their weekends and vacation times to help others like Christians do. There are non-Christian organizations that do likewise. However, Christians participate in those organizations too.
In the past Max has made the same point that you make. Hopefully, more Christians will do as you suggest.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Concerning socialism:
If you are talking about the INDIVIDUAL being generous in sharing the blessings provided to him by GOD then you are correct.
It seems to me that Christians have been quite generous. I know of no other people who give of their weekends and vacation times to help others like Christians do. There are non-Christian organizations that do likewise. However, Christians participate in those organizations too.
In the past Max has made the same point that you make. Hopefully, more Christians will do as you suggest.

I certainly hope more Christians do that also, Neal.

But I meant much more with my remarks.

Essentially I was saying that the precepts of American conservatism are so significantly at odds with the teachings of Jesus, that to consider one's self to be a Christian and an advocate of American conservatism makes precious little sense. A more honorable and authentic consideration of the teachings...would be to help further the goals of the American left.

Izzy and others have pointed that out. You do not seem responsive to it.

To that end, would you name one or two of the focus areas of the American right that you see to be more in tune with the teachings of Jesus compared with the American left...and one or two of the focus areas of the American left that you see to be more at odds with the teachings of Jesus compared with the American right.

We can all discuss it.

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@Frank Apisa,

The obvious #1 is God. A person is absolutely dependent on God in every way. God is Sovereign in all things. He is to be worshipped. Only He is worthy of glory. He is worthy of our trust and obedience. We are to be thankful for all that He has given to us. All creation is for His glory.
I can continue, but hopefully you get my point.

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@Frank Apisa,

Here is #2:
While conservatives may not be perfect, at least they make an effort. On the other hand, many leftists are total hypocrites. For example, Nancy Pelosi hides behind her fortified walls far away from the common person. Leftist leaders in the FBI and other departments have illegally hindered Trump's efforts to make America great again. Leftists play political games.
I have found that conservatives treat people with disabilities far better than liberals. For example a temple called Temple Aliyah won't allow my friend to go to worship because she is bipolar. About 1 mile away West Hills Chabad (Orthodox) warmly accepts us.
Conservatives accept my autism. Leftists do not. I have found time after time that conservatives are far more "inclusive" of individuals than leftists are.

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@NealNealNeal,

Nancy Pelosi is a ******* Tory.

If you want to see a true Socialist look at Jose Mujica, ex president of Uruguay. One of the most decent heads of state there ever was, much better than your pussy grabbing, slobbering, orange parody of a human being.

Your conservatives are a bunch of fascists who only care about enriching themselves and polluting the planet. Idiots like you are happy to go along with this ****, because you have no principles. The lives of children murdered in school shootings mean very little to you.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

The obvious #1 is God. A person is absolutely dependent on God in every way. God is Sovereign in all things. He is to be worshipped. Only He is worthy of glory. He is worthy of our trust and obedience. We are to be thankful for all that He has given to us. All creation is for His glory.
I can continue, but hopefully you get my point.

That is nuts, Neal. Even you should be able to see that.

1) The REALITY may be that no gods of any kind exist.

2) If there is at least one god, as you blindly guess there is, the god may not care at all about what we humans do. We are merely the dominant species on a tiny pebble circling a nondescript star among hundreds of billions of stars in a nondescript galaxy among hundreds of billions of galaxies.

3) The REALITY may be that no gods of any kind exist.

4) If there is at least one, as you blindly guess there is, the god may want us to do what we want to do...to make our own rules...and to get as much as we can out of the opportunity we are given...or to screw up and destroy ourselves.

5) The REALITY, however, may be that no gods of any kind exist.

6) Even though you are making a blind guess that there is a god...and that the god is worthy of everything you suggested...the fact is there may not be any gods.

7) There may not be any gods. You have got to stop supposing your blind guess is correct...and that it is your obligation to "enlighten" the rest of us.

8) And finally...NO GODS MAY EXIST.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Here is #2:
While conservatives may not be perfect, at least they make an effort. On the other hand, many leftists are total hypocrites. For example, Nancy Pelosi hides behind her fortified walls far away from the common person. Leftist leaders in the FBI and other departments have illegally hindered Trump's efforts to make America great again. Leftists play political games.
I have found that conservatives treat people with disabilities far better than liberals. For example a temple called Temple Aliyah won't allow my friend to go to worship because she is bipolar. About 1 mile away West Hills Chabad (Orthodox) warmly accepts us.
Conservatives accept my autism. Leftists do not. I have found time after time that conservatives are far more "inclusive" of individuals than leftists are.

American conservatives DEFINITELY ARE NOT PERFECT. They are, in fact, very, very, very far from perfect.

The American left also is far from perfect.

But my comment was that the American left is more in tune with the teachings of Jesus...than the American right will ever be.

You mentioned hypocrisy. Neal...there is no more hypocritical conduct, than to claim to be a Christian and to also claim to be an American conservative.

American conservatism pisses on the teachings of Jesus.

I restate my request of you:

Name one or two of the focus areas of the American right that you see to be more in tune with the teachings of Jesus compared with the American left...and one or two of the focus areas of the American left that you see to be more at odds with the teachings of Jesus compared with the American right.

Give it a try, Neal. Just give it a try.

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@Frank Apisa,

This is what they’re like, condemning any minor discretion by those they deem ‘leftists,’ while forgiving murder, grand treason and genocide from their ‘conservative’ overlords.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank
Jesus said that we MUST accept Him as God. I have answered your question.
Jesus came to die for our sins. Everything about Him revolves around that fact.

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