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How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

 
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:19 am
@reasoning logic,
How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

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Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:20 am
@NealNealNeal,
NealNealNeal wrote:

Two points Frank:
When people want to do horrible things to a group of people they sometimes deny the worth of their victims. This includes:
Slavery--- Blacks are only a fraction of a person
Naziism--- Jews are inferior to Germans
Abortion--- Preborn babies are not really human. Margeret Sanger believed that society should limit the amount of "inferior people" in existence.

Black lives matter, including Preborn black lives.


If a woman with a pregnancy occurring in her own body decides she wants to terminate that pregnancy...she should be allowed to terminate it. That right should not be infringed upon because of anyone else's "religious" convictions.

If you cannot see that...you are contributing to the problem we non-religious people have with you religious people.

BELIEVE whatever you want...and conduct yourself the way you choose. BUT allow others to do so also.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:23 am
@NealNealNeal,
NealNealNeal wrote:

(2) I see your point. All Americans have the right to vote and try to persuade other people to their point of view. They also have the right to live their lives as they see fit. This includes believing something that others strongly disagree with.


I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU "BELIEVE" AT ALL.

You can "believe" you are Napoleon come back to life if you want.

You can "believe" you can walk across the Atlantic Ocean. (I might even encourage some people who "belief" that to give it a shot!)


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izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
Bang on. What gets me is the tortured logic they use, because they can’t impose their will on other people their religion is under attack.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:32 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

Izzythepush...the title for this post is...How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?...Your religion may be right.Now don’t get saying you haven’t got a religion because you have if you claim there is no God when you haven’t a clue whether there is or isn’t.You can believe all that you like ...that there is no God...but you can’t PROVE it.So you are unsure and therefore not an atheist at all.Atheists (??) think they can say they don’t believe in any religion and that’s it....YEAH AND??? Do you think that God (if he exists) CARES what anyone thinks in this regard? I’m not trying to force anything on anyone I’m merely pointing this possibility out.


Stop with that bullshit, Jasper.

Do you understand the significant difference between these two sentences?

One: I do not believe there are any gods.

Two: I believe there are no gods.

Do you?
Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:50 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank it’s quite simple...God exists or he doesn’t...We can’t prove if he exists or not...we can only hope that he exists or not.

You can come up with any statements you want, it changes nothing...the above statement applies.

Lets not go there again.... it’s boring.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 05:55 am
@Jasper10,
Answer my question, it’s quite simple. Should wom3n have access to legal abortions? Yes or no.
Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:06 am
@izzythepush,
Why are you asking me? ...read the bible if you want to know what the Christian God says.....
izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:25 am
@Jasper10,
I’m asking you because you’re making certain allegations, but I’m not surprised you won’t respond, that would involve having a backbone, and there’s been scant evidence of that.

Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:32 am
@izzythepush,
What allegations...sorry I missed that one?
izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:44 am
@Jasper10,
That your religion is under attack.

You miss a lot.

The Bible was written by a pre industrial group of people, most of the Old Testament was written before the Iron Age. We’re talking about a medical procedure that would have been beyond their understanding or imagination.

If you claim the Bible writes specifically about abortion you should be able to quote the verse. The specific verse, not something vague about killing in general, but one that specifically talks about abortion as practiced in the 21st Century.
justaguy2
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:52 am
@Jasper10,
Quote:
Frank it’s quite simple...God exists or he doesn’t...We can’t prove if he exists or not...we can only hope that he exists or not.


Right, so why "do we have to hope"?
Why do you keep saying "we have to hope we are right"???

I DON'T hope that he/it exists or doesn't exist, I don't know one way or the other. So WHY do I need to hope one way or the other when I DON'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER??? It doesn't make any sense to "hope you are right" if you admit YOU DON'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. Get it???

Are you really that arrogant to believe that every other person thinks in the same way you do???

Get over yourself Jasper10, and try understanding what you are getting told for a change. Otherwise it's pointless having any discussion with you. Do you understand that??
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justaguy2
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 06:57 am
@izzythepush,
Exactly!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:14 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

Frank it’s quite simple...God exists or he doesn’t...We can’t prove if he exists or not...we can only hope that he exists or not.


That is NOT our only alternative. But you seem to think that you have come up with a brilliant idea for an argument that it is...and you are sticking with it.

And you continue to insist on using a singular "God" rather than "gods" or "at least one god"...and identify it as a male.

Get away from that. You will improve your arguments a bit.

The bottom line is:

WE DO NOT KNOW IF ANY GODS EXIST OR NOT.

PERIOD.

The "hoping" or any other bullshit is just that...BULLSHIT.

We do not know if any gods exist or if no gods exist.

Quote:

You can come up with any statements you want, it changes nothing...the above statement applies.

Lets not go there again.... it’s boring.


The answer to my question is important to the majority of your posts.

Do you see the significant difference between those two statements?
Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:29 am
@izzythepush,
Christianity is always under attack..so are other religions.What’s your point here?

Regarding who wrote the bible, another non izzythepush version is stated
in 2 Peter 1 20-21

Read Psalm 139 3-16.This what the bible says about when we were made.

izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:38 am
@Jasper10,
The point is that you can’t answer a simple question.

What are you so terrified of?
Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:48 am
@Frank Apisa,
You have no understanding of the HOPE thing do you Frank...You can only offer expletives....

You still don’t get it do you....your understanding of this fundamental point is important.

God...Gods...what does it matter...

I mentioned God...My statements stand.
Jasper10
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:57 am
@izzythepush,
Terrified...what are you talking about?
izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 07:59 am
@Jasper10,
You have no understanding of basic English. Stop parroting what other people tell you and try thinking for yourself for once.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 10 Oct, 2020 08:01 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

You have no understanding of the HOPE thing do you Frank...You can only offer expletives....

You still don’t get it do you....your understanding of this fundamental point is important.

God...Gods...what does it matter...

I mentioned God...My statements stand.


Izzy is correct. You are terrified.

Now...if you could just come to grips with your terror...and what you are terrified of...you could make real progress.

Why are you so afraid to answer my question?
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