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How can we be sure that all religions are wrong?

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Leadfoot
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:16 am
@farmerman,
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as long as Ive known CI, hes been a science guy, no gods required.

Never said anything about 'required'. CI is in his own words a "There is no God." guy.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 12:23 pm
@Patches,
Even your god believes in ad hominem. Rather sad.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 05:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
In the end, we rest in the abyss that we have made for ourselves.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 06:32 pm
@Patches,
How do you reconcile the contradiction, thou shalt not kill, and to kill all non believers?
http://www.atheistrev.com/2005/03/bible-commands-christians-to-kill.html?m=1
Krumple
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 06:55 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

In the end, we rest in the abyss that we have made for ourselves.


Its nonsense.

What if you were evil at age five. Then you are good at age ten. Then evil at fifteen. Nice and religious at twenty, then evil again at thirty. Forty rolls around and you reform back into goodness. Become a total asshole at fifty. Reborn again at sixty and die at seventy. What abyss are you in?

Tell yourself what ever nonsense that helps you sleep at night.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 06:59 pm
@Patches,
We all end up dead. No second life after we are brain dead.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Spirits without out God in the afterlife are not killed. They are immortal. They suffer a spiritual death. They are evil and wicked. They are of no value or worth. Hence, hell is known as a prison. They would be better off had they not been born. They are scattered among the lost souls of the netherworld. Their souls are not salvaged (restored) as they are with the souls in heaven. They lose their family and friends. And have anger and hatred in their hearts. Is this what you would want for your children? And how about yourself? God has nothing but love for you. All you have to do is believe.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There is scientific evidence that life exists after brain death.
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Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:09 pm
@Krumple,
Jesus died on the cross for your sins. If you have faith in your heart at the time of death, your soul would be salvaged and you would be with your Christian family and friends in heaven. You would be a good spirit and have value and worth. It would be divine bliss for all of eternity.
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Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:22 pm
There are real consequences for the choses we make in our lifetimes.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:26 pm
@Patches,
Part of that is to believe in things you cannot prove exists. Why do you think different cultures created so many different gods?
Krumple
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:38 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Spirits without out God in the afterlife are not killed. They are immortal. They suffer a spiritual death. They are evil and wicked. They are of no value or worth. Hence, hell is known as a prison. They would be better off had they not been born. They are scattered among the lost souls of the netherworld. Their souls are not salvaged (restored) as they are with the souls in heaven. They lose their family and friends. And have anger and hatred in their hearts. Is this what you would want for your children? And how about yourself? God has nothing but love for you. All you have to do is believe.


There is a problem. A mother dies, she ends up in heaven but her son ends up in hell to suffer. How can that mother honestly like heaven knowing her son is suffering? Does she no longer care or does god create a fake son to make her believe he's in heaven with her?

It points out a flaw and any explanation falls short of fair or just.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Angels and demons are considered to be gods as well. Two thirds of the world believe in the one true Abrahamic God. Only the Muslims believe that the Holy Spirit is the archangel Gabriel and they teach falsely. Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. This is correct. Also the Muslims believe in many saviors. And their is only one true Savior. That would be the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The key is to find the most truthful of all the religions. Christianity has it hands down. IN GOD WE TRUST. The US was founded on the truth.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:49 pm
@Krumple,
He becomes forgotten. The souls of hell are forgotten by their families in heaven. They are lost souls. Unless someone makes atonement for their sins. In which case their souls are salvaged, delivered into heaven and remembered.

God is both fair and just.
Krumple
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:49 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Angels and demons are considered to be gods as well. Two thirds of the world believe in the one true Abrahamic God. Only the Muslims believe that the Holy Spirit is the archangel Gabriel and they teach falsely. Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. This is correct. Also the Muslims believe in many saviors. And their is only one true Savior. That would be the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The key is to find the most truthful of all the religions. Christianity has it hands down. IN GOD WE TRUST. The US was founded on the truth.


Pure nonsense.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 07:52 pm
@Krumple,
Have you no faith in the American way?
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 08:09 pm
@Patches,
The American Way is the "freedom of religion." It also means "freedom from religion."
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 08:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
America is founded on the Christian faith. Always has been and always will be.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 08:35 pm
@Patches,
It may have been founded on Christianity, but that religion continues to decrease in their membership, and will continue to do so for the future.
Patches
 
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Fri 27 Jan, 2017 08:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Christianity is the largest religion in the world and growing.

http://i.imgur.com/jTgtZV4.png
 

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