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Mon 22 Mar, 2004 08:46 am
It will, and it won't. I hear those words, and the hair stands up on the back of my neck. There are other folks who are totally pleased by references to God.
Personally, I think that most of the people who enjoy his references, the group of fundamentalists who want more religion in government, will be happy that Bush has brought a God back into the White House. But then again, those folks were probably pro-Bush to start with.
Where he will hurt, are with the uncommitted moderates, who may decide that they don't wnt a president who does not understand or respect the boundries between church and state. So ultimately, his religious fervor may just go against him.
"Because of President Bush's vision and leadership, our nation is safer."
Condoleezza Rice in the Washington Post of Monday, March 22, 2004.
:wink:
Walter Hinteler wrote:"Because of President Bush's vision and leadership, our nation is safer."
Condoleezza Rice in the Washington Post of Monday, March 22, 2004.
:wink:
precisely how many terrorist attacks have there been since 9/11 ?
Zero ? Correct. The statement is thus true.
Stay tuned. We'll give you the answer in November.
I wear an anti-elephant charm on my belt. I have never seen an elephant in central Ohio. I rest my case.
Fedral wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:"Because of President Bush's vision and leadership, our nation is safer."
Condoleezza Rice in the Washington Post of Monday, March 22, 2004.
:wink:
precisely how many terrorist attacks have there been since 9/11 ?
Zero ? Correct. The statement is thus true.
If we use that logic, using only 9/11 as the standard, then we were much safer when Clinton was still in office. 9/11 happened on GW's watch.
What does Rice's comment have to do with God references by GW?
Both. The Christian Right loves it. I think people who are devout will fall into both camps: first of all, a poll a few years back showed that Americans like the idea of their president attending church; the devout would especially be comforted by a worshipping and God fearing president, but, and this a big but, the devout who also are therefore anti-war or who hate hypocrisy will hate bush's sentiments. Atheists and agnostics are put off by what they see as pandering.
I would be more comfortable if I thought he was just pandering. My fear is that he believes every word that comes out of his mouth.
Seems to me that he is putting himself up there with god -
""God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.""
I know his English is very poor - but frankly I find that message very chilling - it almost seems delusional....
Would not most christians be worried about a person who seems to be seeing himself as a kind of god, too? Isn't that blasphemy, or lese majeste, or something?
I usually don't get into these frenzies about Bush - but that is the oddest phrase...
Such people got stoned in the Middle Ages. Or feahtered or tared. Mostly all the three.
Not to speak of what they did in the Old Testament. (There has recently a film started about that :wink: )
My mom says she loves me and my wife says she loves me, but I have never once confused my wife for my mom.
Neither your wife nor your mother is in the Oval Office currently, though I suspect either might do a better job...
Well, Dlowen was commenting that christians may not be able to tell the difference between God and Bush. I was merely pointing out that most people (myself included) are able to tell the difference and aren't worried "about a person who seems to be seeing himself as a kind of god, too?"
I don't see how Bush is comparing himself to God in the quote Dlowen used though.
McGentrix wrote:My mom says she loves me and my wife says she loves me, but I have never once confused my wife for my mom.
Then you must not be from West Virginia, McG. Those folks do it all the time.
McGentrix wrote:Well, Dlowen was commenting that christians may not be able to tell the difference between God and Bush. I was merely pointing out that most people (myself included) are able to tell the difference and aren't worried "about a person who seems to be seeing himself as a kind of god, too?"
I think Dlowen was commenting that Bush may not be able to tell the difference between god and Bush
Quote:I don't see how Bush is comparing himself to God in the quote Dlowen used though.
Try taking off the blinders.
Nah McGentrix - I was pointing out that I am becoming concerned that BUSH cannot tell the difference between himself and god.
I really think that was pretty plain, you know - but nemmind...
Really? Your blinders must be a different color than mine because you somehow see him comparing himself to God whereas I don't.
However, after studying this quote, I would like to see it in context...any links?
I love the way Bush positions himself as with God, and God with him. I never knew God was a supporter of war and violence.
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