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Kid wouldn't fight, died of injuries

 
 
boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 10 Mar, 2013 04:53 pm
@MattDavis,
I think there can be some ganging up but it is mostly just attempts to derail a thread without adding anything to it.

As we've seen on this thread.
MattDavis
 
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Reply Sun 10 Mar, 2013 04:58 pm
@boomerang,
Destruction is easier than construction.
boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 10 Mar, 2013 08:06 pm
@MattDavis,
Ain't that the truth!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 10 Mar, 2013 08:17 pm
@MattDavis,
MattDavis wrote:

What in your view is the core problem?


Single parent households that are almost totally dependent on government like never before in American history.
MattDavis
 
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Reply Sun 10 Mar, 2013 08:30 pm
@H2O MAN,
Do you have any data on single parents or governmental aid programs which has lead you to that opinion?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 05:57 am
@MattDavis,
Do you have any data on this to support your opinion?
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:25 pm
@H2O MAN,
Sure!
Which opinion?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:30 pm
@MattDavis,
MattDavis wrote:

Sure!
Which opinion?


All of them!
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:34 pm
@H2O MAN,
I try very hard not to make any assumptions without evidence.
Maybe you could pick one opinion just to narrow it a down a bit.
At least to start. Very Happy
I don't want to get into an entire explanation of epistemology.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:40 pm
@MattDavis,
Well, H2OMan is the inventor of the Waterman Trilemma, named after his adventures when he pulled himself and the horse on which he was sitting out of a swamp by his own hair. ... ... ...
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:51 pm
@MattDavis,
Start with this one, because it's the one that generated my question.
You are able to tell what post the reply emanates from, aren't you?

MattDavis wrote:

Girls and boys (in aggregate) bully in different ways.
In many ways, you might view some of the female bullying as more destructive, my sister for example lost a friend to suicide as the result of a campaign of primarily female bullying. Female bullying (on average) tends to be less physically violent.
The formation of tribes or cliques is related to the labeling problem. "Us" and "Them". Good kids, bad kids. Cool kids, weak kids. etc.
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 02:59 pm
@H2O MAN,
Peer involvement in bullying: insights and challenges
for intervention

Quote:
Gender and peer responses to bullying
To date, the majority of research into children's aggressive behavior has focused on boys
(Bjoerkqvist and Niemelae, 1992). Boys tend to have extensive, relatively unintimate
playgroups, therefore the conflictual behavior of boys is more likely to involve salient
behaviors such as direct physical aggression, yelling, and assertions of status and dominance.
In contrast, girls' playgroups tend to be more intimate (Maccoby and Jacklin, 1974). Girls
may, therefore, be more likely to use indirect aggression

hostile acts where the perpetrator
remains anonymous (Lagerspetz
et al
., 1988). Crick and Grotpeter (1995) found that this
type of relational aggression is significantly more likely to occur among girls, while direct
physical and verbal aggression are more likely among boys.

Quick google search for free academic articles, I assume you don't have access to a University database, if you do you might also check there (usually better access).
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:10 pm
@MattDavis,
So much has changes since the Maccoby and Jacklin study in 1974
Google 'girl fight' ... look at the videos, read the articles.
Modern females are more likely to use direct aggression more than ever before.
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:26 pm
@H2O MAN,
Would you care to share an academic study, or do you suggest I take my information from youtube videos?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:39 pm
@MattDavis,
I suggested that you read the associated articles and stories, but you
can just ignore all of it and pretend nothing has changed since 1974...
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:40 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Prevalence of Bullying

Of the 1639 children, 70 (4±3%) were identifed as direct bullies–boys: 47 (2±9%); girls: 23 (1±4%)–167(10±2%) as bully}victims–boys: 122 (7±4%); girls: 45(2±7%)–and 653 (39±8%) as victims–boys: 339(20±7%); girls: 314 (19±2%). The remaining 748 (45±6%) children were neutral (1 child had missing data). Regarding relational bullying, 18 (1±1%) were bullies–boys: 14 (0±9%); girls: 4 (0±2%)–96 (5±9%) bully}victims–boys: 58 (3±5%); girls: 38 (2±3%)–and 622 (37±9%) victims–boys: 297 (18±1%); girls: 325 (19±9%).
The remaining 901 (55±0%) children were neutral (2 children had missing data). Participation in direct and
relational bullying was found to be partially overlapping:
521 (31±8%) children–boys: 290 (35±7%); girls: 231(28±0%)–were identified as being involved in both direct and relational bullying behaviour (physical bullies, bully) victims or victims and also either relational bullies, bully }victims or victims). A further 369 children (22±5%) were involved in physical bullying only and were classified
as relational neutrals–boys: 218 (26±8%); girls: 151(18±3%)–215 (13±1%) were involved in relational bullying and were physical neutrals–boys: 79 (9±7%); girls: 136 (16±5%)–and 532 (32±5%) were not involved in any bullying behaviour (physical neutrals and
relational neutrals). Full results on the prevalence and
distinctiveness of relational bullying are reported else-
where (Wolke & Karstadt, 1999)

The Association between Direct and Relational Bullying and Behaviour
Problems among Primary School Children
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:41 pm
@MattDavis,
That's just beautiful.
MattDavis
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:41 pm
@H2O MAN,
That article was written in 1999, the new one is from a study conducted in 2000.
I would be happy to evaluate any more recent data that contradicts either study.
Show me the data.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:43 pm
@MattDavis,
The Maccoby and Jacklin study you quoted was done in 1974.
Are mixing them together for your own enjoyment?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 03:43 pm
@MattDavis,
Quote:
Would you care to share an academic study, or do you suggest I take my information from youtube videos?


You guys are really amazing, Matt. It's like you can't keep track of what you've just said.
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