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March 20, 2004
Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda
By PHILIP SHENON
New York Times
WASHINGTON, March 19
Senior Clinton administration officials called to testify next week before the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks say they are prepared to detail how they repeatedly warned their Bush administration counterparts in late 2000 that Al Qaeda posed the worst security threat facing the nation ?- and how the new administration was slow to act.
They said the warnings were delivered in urgent post-election intelligence briefings in December 2000 and January 2001 for Condoleezza Rice, who became Mr. Bush's national security adviser; Stephen Hadley, now Ms. Rice's deputy; and Philip D. Zelikow, a member of the Bush transition team, among others.
One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.
At the time of the briefings, there was extensive evidence tying Al Qaeda to the bombing in Yemen two months earlier of an American warship, the Cole, in which 17 sailors were killed.
"It was very explicit," Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. "Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in." Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.
The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials ?- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser ?- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.
They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.
While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.
The testimony could also prove uncomfortable for the commission, since Mr. Zelikow is now the executive director of the bipartisan panel. And the Clinton administration officials can expect to come under tough questioning about their own performance in office and why they did not do more to respond to the terrorist threat in the late 1990's.
The White House does not dispute that intelligence briefings about the Qaeda threat occurred during the transition, and the commission has received extensive notes and other documentation from the White House and Clinton administration officials about what was discussed.
What is at issue, Clinton administration officials say, is whether their Bush administration counterparts acted on the warnings, and how quickly. The Clinton administration witnesses say they will offer details of the policy recommendations they made to the incoming Bush aides, but they would not discuss those details before the hearing.
"Until 9/11, counterterrorism was a very secondary issue at the Bush White House," said a senior Clinton official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "Remember those first months? The White House was focused on tax cuts, not terrorism. We saw the budgets for counterterrorism programs being cut."
The White House rejects any suggestion that it failed to act on the threats of Qaeda terrorism before the Sept. 11 attacks.
"The president and his team received briefings on the threat from Al Qaeda prior to taking office, and fighting terrorism became a top priority when this administration came into office," Sean McCormack, a White House spokesman, said. "We actively pursued the Clinton administration's policies on Al Qaeda until we could get into place a more comprehensive policy."
Mr. Zelikow, the director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia and a co-author of a 1995 book with Ms. Rice, has been the target of repeated criticism from some relatives of Sept. 11 victims. They have said his membership on the Bush transition team and his ties to Ms. Rice pose a serious conflict of interest for the commission, which is investigating intelligence and law-enforcement actions before the attacks.
Mr. Clarke said if Mr. Zelikow left any of the White House intelligence briefings in December 2000 and January 2001 without understanding the imminent threat posed by Al Qaeda, "he was deaf."
Mr. Zelikow said in an interview that he has recused himself from any part of the investigation that involves the transition, to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. He said his participation in the Qaeda intelligence briefings was already well known. "The fact of what occurred in these briefings is not really disputed," he said.
Ms. Rice has refused a request to testify at the hearings next week, saying it would violate White House precedent for an incumbent national security adviser to appear in public at a hearing of what the White House considers a legislative body. She has given a private interview to several members of the commission.
The commission, known formally as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, was created by Congress in 2002 over the initial objections of the Bush administration.
Ms. Albright and Mr. Cohen declined to be interviewed about their testimony. Mr. Berger refused to discuss details of his testimony, saying only, "I intend to talk about what we did in the Clinton administration, as well as my recommendations for the future."
In the past, Mr. Berger has said that he and his staff organized the intelligence briefings in December 2000 at which Ms. Rice, Mr. Hadley and Mr. Zelikow were warned in detail about the Qaeda threat and that on his departure, he advised Ms. Rice that he believed the Bush administration would be forced to spend more time on dealing with Al Qaeda than on any other subject.
In his testimony, Mr. Clarke is also expected to discuss what he believed to be the Bush administration's determination to punish Saddam Hussein for the Sept. 11 attacks even though there was no evidence to tie the Iraqi president to Al Qaeda.
The issue is addressed in a new book by Mr. Clarke, and in an interview to promote the book on "60 Minutes" on CBS-TV scheduled for Sunday, Mr. Clarke said that the White House considered bombing Iraq in the hours after the Sept. 11 attacks, even when it became clear that Al Qaeda was responsible.
"I think they wanted to believe there was a connection, but the C.I.A. was sitting there, the F.B.I. was sitting there, saying, `We've looked at this issue for years ?- for years, we've looked, and there's just no connection,' " Mr. Clarke said. He recalled telling Defense Secretary Rumsfeld that "there are a lot of good targets in a lot of places, but Iraq had nothing to do" with the Sept. 11 attacks.
The White House has insisted that it acted aggressively throughout 2001 on the warnings to deal with the threat from Qaeda terrorists, and that there was an exhaustive staff review throughout the spring and summer, with a proposal ready for President Bush in early September to step up the government's efforts to destroy the terrorist network.
The Clinton administration witnesses may face difficult questions at the hearings about why they did not do more to deal with Qaeda immediately after the Cole attack and the discovery the previous winter that Qaeda terrorists had come close to coordinated attacks timed to the Dec. 31, 1999, festivities for the new millennium.
"There was no contemplation of any military action after the millennium plots, and there should have been," said Bob Kerrey, a Democratic member of the commission and a former senator from Nebraska.
"The Cole is even worse, because that was an attack on a military target," he said. "It was military against military. It was an Islamic army against our Navy. Just because you don't have a nation-state as your adversary doesn't mean you should not consider a declaration of war."
So why didn't Clinton do anything about it?
Because the republican congress tied his hands by refuseing to give the military the money to conduct the necessary reprisels. When he did bomb some Al Quida positions the republicans screamed thier heads off about Clinton trying to gain popularity through promoting war. Does this sound familiar to you or was this before you were taught to read?
Why the need for the insult at the end of your whiny rant? Your arguemant unable to stand on it's own?
McGentrix
McGentrix wrote: "So why didn't Clinton do anything about it?"
Your selective memory continues to amaze me---especially about the Clinton presidency. It will be interesting to learn how you will edit the Bush presidency history when its over (the sooner the better.)
BBB
The gist of the article posted is that Clinton staff handed over documentation about threats to the US from AQ, yet the incoming Bush admin either ignored those briefings or didn't think they were important. I recall Clinton signing many treaties and pardoning many criminal campaign comtributors at the end of his lame duck presidency. Not waging war against known threats to the US.
If you have evidence to fill in the holes of my "selective memory", then feel free.
McGentrix
McGentrix, you never disappoint me in your consistent "change the question-focus" when confronted with facts contrary to your political bias.
Not only did the Clinton administration turn over documents, top staffers briefed top Bush staffers several times about the increasing danger from al Qaeda.
Once again you try to deflect these facts by making inane comments about pardoning, etc., which have no relationship to the topic.
BBB
Typical
I believe we may find out if gw bush and his staff failed in protecting America from attack in many ways. Whether they could have prevented the 911 Attack may never be known. I challenge anyone reading this to prove that Bush Inc. performed above average in protecting America then and challenge them to prove that they are doing an above average job now.
Note: Stating that the proof is in no attacks in the US from Al Q since 911 is not a valid proof. Al Q. rarely makes large strikes such as 911 within 3 or 4 yr intervals. Perhaps another will be forthcoming before the election.
rabel,
do you have any references pertaining to the Republican Congress tying Clinton's hands, refusing to fund military strikes?
I think McG asked a reasonable enough question. I mean, I found the article to raise more questions than it answered.
What did the Clinton administration do against Al-Qaeda?
What did the Bush administration do against Al-Qaeda in its first year?
What did the Clinton administration do that the Bush administration didn't do, too?
If there is no meaningful answer to that last question, I agree with McG that the accusations levelled here come down to the Clinton team asking the Bush team to do what itself neglected to do.
But the point is, we cant really tell, because the article doesnt provide much info on these questions at all. Just the conflicting statements from the two parties.
According to the senior Clinton official, America "saw the budgets for counterterrorism programs being cut" after Bush came into power.
According to the White House spokesperson, the Bush admin "actively pursued the Clinton administration's policies on Al Qaeda" in those first months.
The journalist doesnt attempt to find out who is right by asking neutral experts or doing some desk research himself (this is one of my pet annoyances - journalists who think "reporting the truth" means giving offocials from each side equal time to spout their rhetorics).
Basically, I didnt learn much from this article. The Clinton people warned the Bush people. That would be news if the Bush people had ever claimed that the Al-Qaeda threat was some new surprise they couldnt have been prepared for. They havent, as far as I know - rather the opposite, they've always claimed the Clinton admin hadnt done enough about it already.
(On an aside, of course that argument falls a bit flat if they now proudly claim to have "actively pursued" Clintons policies upon coming to power).
What would be news is if they warned the Bush team that it was necessary to act in specific way X and Y, and the Bush team refused to because it didnt think it important enough. That's the subtext of this article, but apart from some generalising, unconfirmed statement by an anonymous Clinton official, it doesnt actually present any examples or evidence of that. I wouldnt be entirely surpirsed if it were true, and if it is it will probably emerge from the investigation, but as of this article, we still have little to go on except partisan bickering.
Check 60 min tonight then come back and talk to me Mc Gentrix. I know that the only thing the republican congress was interested in during clintons last four years was trying to put him down. Anything that he proposed was automatacally dismissed no matter what it was.
Bush must be a political genius the way he can get congress to bend to his will.
Bush has a rubberstamp republican congress bought and paid for by his big business friends.
Re: Clinton Aides to Tell Panel of Warning Bush Team on al Q
Quote:The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials — including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser — is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.
How I wish Madeline Albright was still Secretary of State. Their testimony is going to be very, very interesting.
Quote:They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.
Colin Powell's credibilty is shot. Being a part of the Bush administration has ruined him. Donald Rumsfeld's testimony will be nothing more than double talk and nonsensical....as usual. As for George Tenet, I think he's going to fall on the sword for Bush.
Quote:"Until 9/11, counterterrorism was a very secondary issue at the Bush White House," said a senior Clinton official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "Remember those first months? The White House was focused on tax cuts, not terrorism. We saw the budgets for counterterrorism programs being cut."
Sure, I also remember Bush taking the whole month of August 2001 to vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.
Quote:Ms. Rice has refused a request to testify at the hearings next week, saying it would violate White House precedent for an incumbent national security adviser to appear in public at a hearing of what the White House considers a legislative body. She has given a private interview to several members of the commission.
WTF is this about violating a White House precedent? The private interview is a bunch of hooey. She should be testifying out in the open with no special treatment whatsoever.
Quote:The commission, known formally as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, was created by Congress in 2002 over the initial objections of the Bush administration.
No surprise the Bush administration would object to this commission, is there.
Quote:In his testimony, Mr. Clarke is also expected to discuss what he believed to be the Bush administration's determination to punish Saddam Hussein for the Sept. 11 attacks even though there was no evidence to tie the Iraqi president to Al Qaeda.
The fact that Bush has erroneously linked Saddam to the 9/11 attacks is what pisses me off the most about him. When the American public hears Mr. Clarke's testimony, and the testimony of others before this commission, I think Bush's poll numbers will slowly but surely fall.
Quote:The issue is addressed in a new book by Mr. Clarke, and in an interview to promote the book on "60 Minutes" on CBS-TV scheduled for Sunday, Mr. Clarke said that the White House considered bombing Iraq in the hours after the Sept. 11 attacks, even when it became clear that Al Qaeda was responsible.
IMHO, Bush couldn't wait to start bombing Iraq. He was chomping at the bit till March 19, 2003....the day the invasion of Iraq began.
Quote:"I think they wanted to believe there was a connection, but the C.I.A. was sitting there, the F.B.I. was sitting there, saying, `We've looked at this issue for years — for years, we've looked, and there's just no connection,' " Mr. Clarke said. He recalled telling Defense Secretary Rumsfeld that "there are a lot of good targets in a lot of places, but Iraq had nothing to do" with the Sept. 11 attacks.
Rumsfeld and Co. weren't about to let a few facts get in the way of their determination to get their hands on Iraq's oil and Saddam Hussein.
Quote:The White House has insisted that it acted aggressively throughout 2001 on the warnings to deal with the threat from Qaeda terrorists, and that there was an exhaustive staff review throughout the spring and summer, with a proposal ready for President Bush in early September to step up the government's efforts to destroy the terrorist network.
Yep, that proposal was all ready for the well rested and restored President Bush who just returned from his month long vacation in Texas. Ahhh, the pampered life of a newly elected republican president.
Per Clark tonight on 60 Minutes, we should be surprised Afghanistan was even invaded at all!
Yeah. The accounts from that program are really quite something - I'm impressed - or rather, aghast. See
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=610840
BBB
It was only on January 10, 2001 that the Pentagon issued its first report on the Cole bombing. The Navy issued its report the day before George W. Bush's inauguration.
During the transition, the Clinton administration briefed the incoming Bush team of the imminent and urgent threat from al Qaeda. But the Bush people brushed this aside, downplaying terrorism as they played up missile defense in space. They ignored the warnings of Richard Clarke, who remained head of counterterrorism at the National Security Council, and took no action against al Qaeda. Clarke's proposals were shunted off for endless review, but never implemented.
In an August 12, 2002, article, "Time" magazine journalist Michael Elliott notes:
Other senior officials from both the Clinton and Bush administrations, however, say that Clarke had a set of proposals to "roll back" al-Qaeda. In fact, the heading on Slide 14 of the Powerpoint presentation reads, "Response to al Qaeda: Roll back." Clarke's proposals called for the "breakup" of al-Qaeda cells and the arrest of their personnel. The financial support for its terrorist activities would be systematically attacked, its assets frozen, its funding from fake charities stopped. Nations where al-Qaeda was causing trouble?-Uzbekistan, the Philippines, Yemen?-would be given aid to fight the terrorists. Most important, Clarke wanted to see a dramatic increase in covert action in Afghanistan to "eliminate the sanctuary" where al-Qaeda had its terrorist training camps and bin Laden was being protected by the radical Islamic Taliban regime. The Taliban had come to power in 1996, bringing a sort of order to a nation that had been riven by bloody feuds between ethnic warlords since the Soviets had pulled out. Clarke supported a substantial increase in American support for the Northern Alliance, the last remaining resistance to the Taliban. That way, terrorists graduating from the training camps would have been forced to stay in Afghanistan, fighting (and dying) for the Taliban on the front lines. At the same time, the U.S. military would start planning for air strikes on the camps and for the introduction of special-operations forces into Afghanistan. The plan was estimated to cost "several hundreds of millions of dollars." In the words of a senior Bush Administration official, the proposals amounted to "everything we've done since 9/11."
And that's the point. The proposals Clarke developed in the winter of 2000-01 were not given another hearing by top decision makers until late April, and then spent another four months making their laborious way through the bureaucracy before they were readied for approval by President Bush. It is quite true that nobody predicted Sept. 11?-that nobody guessed in advance how and when the attacks would come. But other things are true too. By last summer (2001), many of those in the know?-the spooks, the buttoned-down bureaucrats, the law-enforcement professionals in a dozen countries?-were almost frantic with worry that a major terrorist attack against American interests was imminent. It wasn't averted because 2001 saw a systematic collapse in the ability of Washington's national-security apparatus to handle the terrorist threat.
The "Time" article also quotes Clinton National Security Adviser as telling Condi Rice in January of 2001: "I'm coming to this briefing to underscore how important I think this subject is. I believe that the Bush Administration will spend more time on terrorism generally, and on al-Qaeda specifically, than any other subject."
The Bush Administration also ignored the warning of the Hart-Rudman Commission on Homeland Security that had been created by President Clinton and submitted its report to George W. Bush.
It was the Bush administration that was presented the evidence about al Qaeda's role in the attack on the USS Cole, not the Clinton administration. But George W. Bush did absolutely nothing -- absolutely nothing.
Then came September 11th.
"It was the Bush administration that was presented the evidence about al Qaeda's role in the attack on the USS Cole, not the Clinton administration. But George W. Bush did absolutely nothing -- absolutely nothing."
Give it a rest. You know that's not true and the exagerration does not help your case.
McGentrix wrote:"It was the Bush administration that was presented the evidence about al Qaeda's role in the attack on the USS Cole, not the Clinton administration. But George W. Bush did absolutely nothing -- absolutely nothing."
Give it a rest. You know that's not true and the exagerration does not help your case.
Okay McGentrix... between January and September 2001 what did your hero do?