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Comma and that/which/who

 
 
Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2013 09:42 pm
Sally introduced me to her boyfriend, who is a civil engineer.
In that sentence, is comma neccesary before "who"?



Jake gave Isabel a ring, which had diamonds and rubies.
Jake gave Isabel a ring that had diamonds and rubies.

Mr. Franklin graded the tests that we took on Friday.
Mr. Franklin graded the tests which we took on Friday.

In those sentences, what are the differences? Are those all right sentences?
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2013 11:04 am
None of the sentences require commas, and they are all alright.
JTT
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2013 12:58 pm
@jangsunny1030,
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Are those all right sentences?


Jangsunny, the usual placement for this would be,

Are those sentences all right?

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Relative clauses seem difficult because they are usually presented without any context. You can help yourself a great deal in understanding them by practicing your own wherein you provide the context. You can do this with your friends too. Create situations and use objects to formulate and practice relative clauses.

Situation: a paper, term paper, a pencil, any object

['this' combined with a waving action makes the noun/object known, hence an added info clause with pauses/commas]

This pencil, which was given to me by [name], is yellow.

Two or more pencils in varying positions, hence the need for an identifying clause.

The pencil that/which I'm holding is blue.

Some pieces of paper in various states - wrinkled, crumpled, folded, torn, etc.

The paper which/that I dropped was wrinkled by [name].

This one, which was torn by [name], is sitting/situated at the middle left of the table.

There are millions of possible scenarios in which it is possible for you to not only practice in context but practice in actual speech. Nothing is better for actually learning a language and making these "dead grammar" issues come alive. Nothing is better for setting these "dead grammar" issues into your brain. That's what will make you a competent user of the English language.

jangsunny1030
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2013 06:27 pm
@JTT,
Thank you so much
jangsunny1030
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2013 06:27 pm
@InfraBlue,
Thank you
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2013 10:08 pm
@jangsunny1030,
I'll go over the grammatical issues for relative clauses as soon as I find some time, J.
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