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The GOP keeps asking, where's Obama's sequestration plan?

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 5 Mar, 2013 04:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

If you really want an overall picture of how American busunesses have been messing over American workers for generations, and the reasons, which include far more than unions, here's an interesting historical lesson from John Kennedy, from 1952. He was there while it was going on, and he has a far more cokmprehensivce idea of it than you do, George:

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/54jan/kennedy.htm


I read the article. Although the then young junior Senator from Mass. tried hard to balance his comments about the systematic migration of the former New England textile industry to the South, and to avoid appearances of bias, he ended up complaining that labor competitiuon based on regional prevailing wages and cost of living is "unfair", a truly nonsensical notion. It was precisely the attraction of textile and other manufacturing industries from the North that enabled the South to escape its prior poverty. Implicit in Kennedy's argument was the remarkable notion that the South should instead choose continued poverty over competing with other regions, and/or that empoyers should always remain where they started no matter how much local costs may rise. Either would be a certain formula for economic sclerosis and death.

Interestingly Kennedy ended up requesting special Federal government action to subsidize industries in New England, and did so even after complaining the then Federal subsidies in the production of electrical power by the TVA were "unfair" to New England. This kind of self-serving rhetoric is the common tool of groups seeking government subsidies for themselves, and they aren't even ashamed of calling for them as a way of mitigating the side effects of other government subsidies. Reemarkable !

You can do better than this one Monterey Jack.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 10:32 am
Here's another Obama ****-up; they're discontinuing the White House tours, but their administration is giving Egypt $450 million.

Our government is so screwed up, they don't know up or down! Bunch of incompetents!

Yea, it angers me that our government continues to give money away while our own children and citizens go without food, shelter, and enough funding for our schools and infrastructure.

It's hopeless!

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 01:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Here's another Obama ****-up; they're discontinuing the White House tours, but their administration is giving Egypt $450 million.

Our government is so screwed up, they don't know up or down! Bunch of incompetents!

this is the same White House that has made no secret of its contempt for journalists, which has effectively frozen them out so that the PR machine can run interference free.

we dont know a lot about this Obama fella, but we do know that he does not believe in public access to government. Putin is his role model it seems.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 01:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
As long as I can remember, all past presidents have said that the White House belongs to the American people. It's paid for by our tax dollars, and operated by the National Park Service.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 01:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

As long as I can remember, all past presidents have said that the White House belongs to the American people. It's paid for by our tax dollars, and operated by the National Park Service.

for as long as I can remember presidents have believed that the government belongs to the people, and as such the people have a right which can not be denied to establish a press presence in the white house, which must be allowed reasonable access to daily goings on.

ps. signing monster laws which have been negotiated in back rooms by a few people, written late into the night into bills which are never read by congressmembers, which never are debated or explained to the American people, is also an indication that these people dont give a hoot about that old saw "our government belongs to the people".
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 02:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So cutting the tours pisses you off but you accept the medicare cuts that deny the elderly health care? They will have to cut somewhere because the conservatives insist on keeping their tax loopholes. Congress passes the laws the President tries to apply them as fairly as he can. Granted sometimes he makes a bad decision.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 9 Mar, 2013 02:31 pm
@RABEL222,
I have Medicare, and my wife and I have never had any problems with our health care.

It's not the tour passes that pisses me off! It's the cockeyed spending by our government that upsets me - at a time when the GOP will not approve any revenue increase, and continue to demand more cuts.

There's no cure ........
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 01:21 am
@cicerone imposter,
According to JD Powers, Kaiser healthcare system was rated number 1.
I'm not surprised; I've had my physician at Kaiser for more than 20 years, and she's provided me with the best health care I've ever had in my whole life. She saw me through my prostate cancer, and have responded with the necessary specialists and lab work to make sure all my health concerns were addressed.

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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 03:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
To what cockeyed govt. spending are you referring? What is really cockeyed is to leave tax loopholes intact. There is no justification for this.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 13 Mar, 2013 04:33 pm
@Advocate,
You have to be more specific. Cut and paste from my post.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 06:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Some more Paul Ryan hokus pokus.

Quote:

Ryan Plan Could Give $400,000 Tax Cut to Richest
By Robert Frank | CNBC – 6 hours ago
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It's a little early to judge the full impact of the new House budget plan offered by Paul Ryan. While the plan details the taxes it would cut, it doesn't detail the taxes it would increase to keep revenues the same.

House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
But a new analysis shows that the Ryan plan (at least the part that's been announced) would cut taxes for just about everyone, with the top earners getting the biggest tax cuts.
According to an analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center, overall taxes would fall by an average of $3,000 per taxpayer, raising after-tax incomes by five percent.
The top one percent of earners - those households making more than $575,000 - would see their taxes fall by an average of $225,000. Those making $1 million or more a year would see an average tax cut of $408,000 a year.
(Read more: US Added 300,000 Millionaires Last Year )
Households making $50,000 to $75,000 would see their taxes cut by around $1,100 a year.
Of course, we don't know what taxes would be increased to offset the plan's proposals. The house budget would repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax, enact ordinary income tax rates of 10 percent and 25 percent, repeal the 2010 health-care reform and reduce the corporate tax rate to 25 percent.
In total the changes would reduce revenues by $5.7 trillion over 10 years - an amount that would have to be made up in other tax increases to remain "revenue neutral," or to not add to the deficit.
(Read more: 'Penta-Millionaires' Are Happier Than Those Who Are Merely Rich )
"The changes specified in the budget would reduce revenues by nearly $6 trillion over 10 years," said Roberton Williams of The Tax Policy Center. "That's a big revenue hole that has to be picked up somewhere else."
A Ryan spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.


You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the cost reductions are going to come from social security, Medicare and ObamaCare.

This further increases the divide between the rich and the middle class; go and try to figure out what they're thinking. I guess Paul Ryan's family are all rich - like Romney.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2013 03:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Lookee here at this, CI.

Quote:
MONDAY, MAR 18, 2013 11:15 AM UTC
GOP: We’ve been lying all along
Boehner's admission that we don't really have a debt crisis reveals his party's ulterior, program-cutting motives
BY DAVID SIROTA

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But suddenly, thanks to yesterday’s declarations by Boehner and Ryan, the charade’s most sacred lie has been exposed. In acknowledging that “we do not have an immediate debt crisis,” GOP leaders are admitting that there is, in fact, an alternative. They are also admitting that their longtime claims to the contrary were ends-justify-the-means tactics to manufacture an unnecessary panic — one that they hoped would scare America into abruptly accepting the kind of draconian policies polls show the public opposes.

Now that the truth is out, maybe a more reasoned debate can begin and more pragmatic policies can finally take center stage.

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/18/boehners_debt_confession_reveals_gops_intentions/

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