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Journalist Caught Rumsfeld Lying Again, On "Face the Nation

 
 
Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 09:50 am
Rumsfeld Caught Lying, Yet Again, On "Face the Nation." But This Time, a Journalist Actually Threw It In His Face.
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS - 3/14/04

Thanks to David Sirota of the Center for American Progress for spotting and forwarding this excerpt in which Rumsfeld is caught in a brazen lie by Bob Schieffer of CBS.

Excerpt from "Face the Nation":

SCHIEFFER: Well, let me just ask you this. If they did not have these weapons of mass destruction, though, granted all of that is true, why then did they pose an immediate threat to us, to this country?

Sec. RUMSFELD: Well, you're the--you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase `immediate threat.' I didn't. The president didn't. And it's become kind of folklore that that's--that's what's happened. The president went...

SCHIEFFER: You're saying that nobody in the administration said that.

Sec. RUMSFELD: I--I can't speak for nobody--everybody in the administration and say nobody said that.

SCHIEFFER: Vice president didn't say that? The...

Sec. RUMSFELD: Not--if--if you have any citations, I'd like to see 'em.

Mr. FRIEDMAN: We have one here. It says `some have argued that the nu'--this is you speaking--`that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent, that Saddam is at least five to seven years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain.'

Sec. RUMSFELD: And--and...

Mr. FRIEDMAN: It was close to imminent.

Sec. RUMSFELD: Well, I've--I've tried to be precise, and I've tried to be accurate. I'm s--suppose I've...

Mr. FRIEDMAN: `No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world and the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq.'

Sec. RUMSFELD: Mm-hmm. It--my view of--of the situation was that he--he had--we--we believe, the best intelligence that we had and other countries had and that--that we believed and we still do not know--we will know.
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In Their Own Words: Iraq's 'Imminent' Threat
January 29, 2004

The Bush Administration is now saying it never told the public that Iraq was an "imminent" threat, and therefore it should be absolved for overstating the case for war and misleading the American people about Iraq's WMD. Just this week, White House spokesman Scott McClellan lashed out at critics saying "Some in the media have chosen to use the word 'imminent'. Those were not words we used."

But a closer look at the record shows that McClellan himself and others did use the phrase "imminent threat" - while also using the synonymous phrases "mortal threat," "urgent threat," "immediate threat", "serious and mounting threat", "unique threat," and claiming that Iraq was actively seeking to "strike the United States with weapons of mass destruction" - all just months after Secretary of State Colin Powell admitted that Iraq was "contained" and "threatens not the United States."

While Iraq was certainly a dangerous country, the Administration's efforts to claim it never hyped the threat in the lead-up to war is belied by its statements.

"There's no question that Iraq was a threat to the people of the United States."
• White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan, 8/26/03

"We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
• President Bush, 7/17/03

Iraq was "the most dangerous threat of our time."
• White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 7/17/03

"Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States because we removed him, but he was a threat...He was a threat. He's not a threat now."
• President Bush, 7/2/03

"Absolutely."
• White House spokesman Ari Fleischer answering whether Iraq was an "imminent threat," 5/7/03

"We gave our word that the threat from Iraq would be ended."
• President Bush 4/24/03

"The threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction will be removed."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 3/25/03

"It is only a matter of time before the Iraqi regime is destroyed and its threat to the region and the world is ended."
• Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke, 3/22/03

"The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder."
• President Bush, 3/19/03

"The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations."
• President Bush, 3/16/03

"This is about imminent threat."
• White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03

Iraq is "a serious threat to our country, to our friends and to our allies."
• Vice President Dick Cheney, 1/31/03

Iraq poses "terrible threats to the civilized world."
• Vice President Dick Cheney, 1/30/03

Iraq "threatens the United States of America."
• Vice President Cheney, 1/30/03

"Iraq poses a serious and mounting threat to our country. His regime has the design for a nuclear weapon, was working on several different methods of enriching uranium, and recently was discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/29/03

"Well, of course he is."
• White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett responding to the question "is Saddam an imminent threat to U.S. interests, either in that part of the world or to Americans right here at home?", 1/26/03

"Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons. Iraq poses a threat to the security of our people and to the stability of the world that is distinct from any other. It's a danger to its neighbors, to the United States, to the Middle East and to the international peace and stability. It's a danger we cannot ignore. Iraq and North Korea are both repressive dictatorships to be sure and both pose threats. But Iraq is unique. In both word and deed, Iraq has demonstrated that it is seeking the means to strike the United States and our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/20/03

"The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American. ... Iraq is a threat, a real threat."
• President Bush, 1/3/03

"The world is also uniting to answer the unique and urgent threat posed by Iraq whose dictator has already used weapons of mass destruction to kill thousands."
• President Bush, 11/23/02

"I would look you in the eye and I would say, go back before September 11 and ask yourself this question: Was the attack that took place on September 11 an imminent threat the month before or two months before or three months before or six months before? When did the attack on September 11 become an imminent threat? Now, transport yourself forward a year, two years or a week or a month...So the question is, when is it such an immediate threat that you must do something?"
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/14/02

"Saddam Hussein is a threat to America."
• President Bush, 11/3/02

"I see a significant threat to the security of the United States in Iraq."
• President Bush, 11/1/02

"There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and dangerous threat to American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
• President Bush, 10/28/02

"The Iraqi regime is a serious and growing threat to peace."
• President Bush, 10/16/02

"There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
• President Bush, 10/7/02

"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
• President Bush, 10/2/02

"There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
• President Bush, 10/2/02

"This man poses a much graver threat than anybody could have possibly imagined."
• President Bush, 9/26/02

"No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/19/02

"Some have argued that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent - that Saddam is at least 5-7 years away from having nuclear weapons. I would not be so certain. And we should be just as concerned about the immediate threat from biological weapons. Iraq has these weapons."
• Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/18/02

"Iraq is busy enhancing its capabilities in the field of chemical and biological agents, and they continue to pursue an aggressive nuclear weapons program. These are offensive weapons for the purpose of inflicting death on a massive scale, developed so that Saddam Hussein can hold the threat over the head of any one he chooses. What we must not do in the face of this mortal threat is to give in to wishful thinking or to willful blindness."
• Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/29/02
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bigdice67
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 09:56 am
sheeesh, will these guys never learn? Paper is patient, and some day they'll ahve to eat their lies, I guess.
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Umbagog
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 11:11 am
HA! They've said "imminent threat" in every way you can imagine, including the actual phrase by inference, etc., and now they never said it? Are they that lame, or rather, do they think we are that stupid, or even better, do they have no idea how wonderful a tool the internet is to keep past events current in the minds of people?

They may have never said Iraq was an imminent threat, but they went out of their way to say threat and suggest dire consequences without mercy. I wish I had seen Rumsfeld on the defensive. That must have been cool.

The irony here is that Iraq still is an imminent threat to Bush's election if he can't bring stability and government back to the region. The bottom line here is that things are worse for Iraq right now, and things are less stable than they were, regardless of how you feel about Saddam. I'm sure they want to get to a place that is far better than it was when Saddam was in power, but they aren't getting there, are they? The imminent threat stems from the Bush Cabal's ineptitude, poor planning, and of course, the endless underinvestments to bring about great things on the cheap.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 11:23 am
Rumsfeld is senile and perverse.

I somewhat believe this bastard when he says he can't remember or recall certain particulars.

He's suffering from dementia.

He keeps a shard of metal from American Airlines Flight 11, the plane that was crashed into the Pentagon, in his office. And shows it to visitors proudly. Something about never forgetting 9/11. I'm sure he needs something as a reminder, since his memory has gone to hell (ahead of the rest of him).

And by the way, Umba, your new avatar is a dead ringer for Rumsfeld.
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Umbagog
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 01:02 pm
Where do you think I got it? Whooda thunk Donald had a twin brother?

When doves fly....
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Umbagog
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 01:04 pm
You have a cool pic too, P. I want to change mine on occassion to assist my positioning.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 04:27 pm
The Attempt to Re-write History.
The problem for liars is prior documentation. We don't need to rely on our memory to exhibit their present lies. The Media is smelling the drops of blood dripping from Bushco. Soon there will be a larger flow of blood and the Media will spiral into a thrashing feeding frenzy.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2004 04:54 pm
priceless
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 17 Mar, 2004 05:06 pm
Watch the video of Rumfeld caught lying during TV interview
Watch the video of Rumfeld caught lying during TV interview:

http://www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/
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rom
 
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Reply Thu 18 Mar, 2004 11:45 am
pissed off
what i dont understand is that why these kinds of interviews are not headlines... people should know what a liar this person is!
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