The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

@McGentrix,

I don't think that a fair comparison Mac. We force people to have insurance because we don't care to leave those in trouble to shift for themselves. That's how motor insurance began.

And everybody being free to own a gun is soon qualified by what sort of gun, how many might be owned and under what circumstances they might be used.

The gun ownership policy is a matter of what the population will put up with presumably it bearing in mind the negative aspects. I assume that the present state of things finds the negative aspects to be acceptable.

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http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1304/just-restrict-gun-rights-democrats-not-republicans-most-crim-politics-1366852894.jpg

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@McGentrix,

It's not a panacea; it's universal health care. It's common in almost all developed countries except the US.

If that doesn't tell you something, your head is up your arse (in that dark place where common sense doesn't exist).

Challenge the idea all you want, but at the very least "tell us" what's wrong with universal health care.

It helps to keep the majority of citizens HEALTHIER and protects them from bankruptcy.

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ObamaCare is clearly a panacea... it has nothing to do with health care.

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@H2O MAN,

I think H2O's comment about Obamacare on this thread about gun control is telling.

H2O MAN wrote:

ObamaCare is clearly a panacea... it has nothing to do with health care.

There are those who long to keep the issue of gun control alive through 2014 and 2016 the election cycles but I think most voters are ready to move on. None of the 4 Dem are 3 Repub senators who voted the "wrong" way will be defeated if they choose to run in 2014. A few moderate Repub moderates in the House may face challenges from more conservative members of their own party. But the fight will be over some issue other than guns.

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

There are those who long to keep the issue of gun control alive through 2014 and 2016 the election cycles but I think most voters are ready to move on.

True, but that decision will ultimately be up to Obama and whoever else is in charge of Democratic strategy. If the Democrats choose to make another go of it, the NRA will step up and defeat them again, and the issue will continue to dominate.

It doesn't matter much either way. The Democrats can make things worse for themselves by keeping gun control at the forefront, but even if they don't, the damage they've already done to themselves is irreparable.

Obama squandered every bit of his political capital in this futile assault against the NRA, and now he has nothing left to achieve anything with in his second term. We're in for four years of a do-nothing presidency now. The only thing that has even a small chance of getting done is immigration reform, and that is only because there are Republicans who want it even more than Obama does.

And after four years of a do-nothing presidency, the voters are going to be all set to switch which party controls the White House come 2016.

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@realjohnboy,

There are those that wish to deny rights granted to individual American citizens by the US constitution.
Those people happen to be democrats, but they could easily be republicans in the future.

It's time to reduce the scope and reach of government in these United States.

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@H2O MAN,

"American Liberalism: Taking pride in what the vast majority of Americans are ashamed of"

A liberal is a DISTORTIONist. Liberalism is distortionism.

The result of twisting the truth about anything is taking a liberal vu of it.

David

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@oralloy,

In the fullness of candor:
I hope that Obama will do NOTHING,
or as little as possible until he is replaced; no joke.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

There couldn't be more distortion in the way the GOP is attacking everything they can think up that includes Benghazi, IRS, ObamaCare, the Justice Department, and the whole Obama administration.

They already forgot the crisis that GW Bush created for this country; a) the Great Recession, b) doubling of the national debt, c) starting two illegal wars, d) implementing the drug benefit without funding it, and e) allowing torture of prisoners.

And beyond all that, the all the crisis they identify with the Obama administration have been proved false, and congress' performance rating is the lowest it's been in history. They have become the "No Party."

They have their heads up their arse!

Why Americans see fit to continue voting them into office is the mystery of our times.

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@cicerone imposter,

Just from today.

Quote:

"Well, we keep hearing the reports and we have several specifically worded items saying who was being targeted," Paul said. "I don't know if that comes from a policy, but that's what's being reported in the press and reported orally. I haven't seen a policy statement, but I think we need to see that."
Memo or no memo, McConnell said it's clear that political bullying is being cultivated by the Obama White House.

They haven't the faintest idea what bullying is; they just need to look in the mirror. They create crisis after crisis - then blame Obama for their creative, unfounded, accusations.

These idiots dream up everything they can in their stupid brains, then lash out at the president with false accusations.

TNCFS

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

I 'll stipulate to waiver of the rights of Democrats.
(Thay r unlikely to object to being un-armed.)

However, I must dispute the EXISTENCE of "law abiding"
members of ANY political party.

(Except, in some cases, very young children),
it is IMPOSSIBLE for any citizen to be "law abiding",
including all police, all lawyers, all judges n all legislators.
We all walk thru many invisible webs of laws whereof we know not,
violating them left n right. Except perhaps reclusive hermits
concealed in mountain caves, close historical scrutiny of ANYONE
will reveal infractions of law, however remote or unexpected.

The Congressional Research Service GAVE UP on trying to count
how many federal crimes exist (let alone State or local infractions),
including incorporations by reference of alien treaties and administrative regulations,
criminally binding on Americans, but "ignorance of the law is no excuse."

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@cicerone imposter,

From the same source.

Quote:

Meanwhile, White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer accused the GOP of conducting "fishing expeditions" ahead of next year's midterm elections.
"I think we've seen this playbook from Republicans before," Pfeiffer said on "Meet The Press" Sunday. "What they want to do when they are lacking a positive agenda is try to drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped-up hearings and false allegations. We're not going to let that happen."

BTW, Obama has a 53% approval rating.
Congress' approval rating is between 13 and 15%.

I hope those idiot conservatives keep it up; they're shooting for single digit approval rating; a new low in US politics.

WOW! Republicans do have a single digit approval rating. It's at 9%.

They're shooting for zero! LOL

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@OmSigDAVID,

What's more important is that more children of gun owners kill themselves or their siblings. That's a FACT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICS IS.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

What's more important is that more children of gun owners kill themselves or their siblings.

Liberalism sure has a dark side to it

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

c) starting two illegal wars,

Just out of curiosity, what was "illegal"
about either of those wars ???????
WHICH law was violated by the Republicans ???

cicerone imposter wrote:

Why Americans see fit to continue voting them into office is the mystery of our times.

It is because it is the more conservative of the 2 parties,
i.e. the closer in philosophy to that upon which this Republic was founded,
to wit: a smaller n weaker government,
to the aggrandizement of the freedom of the Individual citizen.

Thay know that personal freedom and government jurisdiction are INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL
and those voters r trying to fight for their own freedom
by curtailing n degrading the jurisdiction of government.

That is the answer to the mystery.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

You wrote,

Quote:

Just out of curiosity, what was "illegal"

That's precisely the reason you need to do your own homework. Ignorance is no excuse.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

What's more important is that more children of gun owners kill themselves or their siblings. That's a FACT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICS IS.

I doubt u.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

You can doubt all you want; it's all in the statistics.

It's very simple logic; no guns, no killings by guns.

I guess that's too difficult a concept for you to comprehend! LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

Another perfect non-answer.

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