The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

@cicerone imposter,

So if you get mad enough at a family member to wished to killed them and there was no firearm in reach you would not reach instead for a knife or a hammer or a pillow or use you bare hands and killed that person or persons?

Only firearms can kill another person is that what you are trying to sell with special note of within a family?

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@BillRM,

Murder weapon a Hammer

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Life-sentence-for-Winnipeg-man-who-killed-wife-with-hammer-203452931.html

Kapsik and his wife, Ludmila, then 59, were watching a Saturday night hockey game in their Jefferson Avenue apartment when he attacked her with a hammer, striking her 40 times in the arms and hands and 60 to 70 times in the head, chasing her around their apartment as she futilely tried to fend off the blows.

After the attack, Kapsik cleaned himself up and then called 911 and waited for police.

Kapsik had no explanation for the attack but court was told he had been suffering from mental illness and hearing voices.

The couple had been married for 36 years and there was no history of abuse or violence. They had no children.

Next we have a knife as a murder weapon

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http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Husband-killed-wife-divorce/story-18925435-detail/story.html#axzz2Sp4evpUw

A husband stabbed his wife to death in the bathroom of their home because she wanted a divorce, a murder jury has been told.
Two days before the killing, the jury heard that defendant Yacoub Rezai (32) had told his brother-in-law he thought his wife was cheating on him.

A pillow used as a murder weapon.

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http://www.theyucatantimes.com/2013/04/recent-increase-of-crimes-against-women/
Just over a month after a previous homicide, on the morning of November 10, 2012, Silverio Kú Tut, 22 years old, using a pillow murdered his young wife, Yurico Ku Ruiz, 20 years of age, and then committed suicide using the hammock.

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So? And 12000 people or so are murdered every year in the US with guns. Should we just accept that and not do anything about it? Should we not do anything about it because one person a decade is murdered with a pillow? Tell that to the spirits of the 12000 people murdered this year you don't give a **** about, Bill.

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@MontereyJack,

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So? And 12000 people or so are murdered every year in the US with guns. Should we just accept that and not do anything about it? Should we not do anything about it because one person a decade is murdered with a pillow? Tell that to the spirits of the 12000 people murdered this year you don't give a **** about, Bill.

One person in a decade strange as a google news search going back just three months pull up such cases so I do not off hand think it one case in a decade.

Be that as it may would those people that was killed by a firearm be better off having been killed by some other weapon or object turn into a weapon?

It not the tools of murder that matter it the men and women who decided to be murderers as the guns did not decided to killed anyone.

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@BillRM,

You asked,

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Be that as it may would those people that was killed by a firearm be better off having been killed by some other weapon or object turn into a weapon?

What a silly ass question! This thread is about GUNS>.

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@cicerone imposter,

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What a silly ass question! This thread is about GUNS>.

Sorry it is about if limits on guns ownership by the government of one kind or another would save any great number of lives instead ( if possible to so limit firearms [it not] ) but instead just force those who wish to be killers to pick some other weapons/tools/means to carry out their murders.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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What a silly ass question! This thread is about GUNS>.

Sorry it is about if limits on guns ownership by the government of one kind or another would save any great number of lives instead ( if possible to so limit firearms [it not] ) but instead just force those who wish to be killers to pick some other weapons/tools/means to carry out their murders.

When you are right, Bill...you are right.

If the government ever moves to ban pillows...I will join you in opposition.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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What a silly ass question! This thread is about GUNS>.

Sorry it is about if limits on guns ownership by the government of one kind or another would save any great number of lives instead ( if possible to so limit firearms [it not] ) but instead just force those who wish to be killers to pick some other weapons/tools/means to carry out their murders.

Sorry, but as the originator of this thread I'd like to point out that it was supposed to be about your opinions on whether there is any possibility of any meaningful firearms legislation coming out of Congress this session. It was not intended as a platform for making speeches about whether or not such legislation would be a good or a bad thing. Frankly, I don't give a flying **** what you think of the government's so-called infringement on our so-called Constitutional 2d Amendment rights. Couldn't care one iota less. Blueveinedthrobber has already been awarded the coveted 'best answer' medal somewhere up there on page 2 or 3 of this waaaayy too long a thread. After his answer, the rest of you guys are just having your usual circle jerk.

Get it right next time, please.

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@Frank Apisa,

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If the government ever moves to ban pillows...I will join you in opposition.

Do not forget about hammers and knives and gasoline and road flares and pressure cookers and matches and sugar and a millions and one other things that can be used to killed our fellow man and woman one by one or in large groups.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Sorry, but as the originator of this thread I'd like to point out that it was supposed to be about your opinions
on whether there is any possibility of any meaningful firearms legislation coming out of Congress this session.

No

Lustig Andrei wrote:

. . . Frankly, I don't give a flying **** what you think . . .

Recently, I saw 2 winged bugs connected together outside on a table.
I brushed them off n thay flew away.

I think THAY gave a flying ****, Andy.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Nice to see you back on-line, David.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

U don't get the idea,
even when it is pointed out to u:
If the alleged crimes were NOT reported,
then HOW coud thay possibly have counted them
(to know any percentage) ?

No David, it is you who don't get the idea. They use the same methodology as the administration used back when they were bragging about "the number of jobs created or 'saved' ".

Oddly, the same techniques cannot be used when discussing the number of unregistered voters who voted anyway. They weren't caught, they weren't counted, and they didn't exist.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Thanx

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Gun violence in the USA is at an all time low.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Gun violence in the USA is at an all time low.

If I were going to rob or murder someone,
I sure wud want him to be un-armed, as defenseless as possible.
If he had a gun when I try to murder him, he might use it to HURT me, for some reason.

David

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Gun violence in the USA is at an all time low.

have you noticed that anti gun freedom people habitually run suicide by gun numbers into their death by gun numbers? this is very debatable so far as honesty goes because the problem of gun deaths only extends to those who die by gun who dont want to. for the rest the availability of guns could well be classed as a public service.

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@hawkeye10,

Yes. That is cheating.

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@hawkeye10,

They're just semantics to justify gun ownership that ends up killing more family members than it saves.

Unfortunately, there are many who think as you do, but it doesn't divert from the facts that gun ownership ends up killing more people - even as the numbers seem to "decrease" in your eyes. For those who lose loved ones by guns, those decreasing numbers mean nothing!

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Most homicides in the United States are committed with firearms, especially handguns.[3]
Homicides committed with firearms peaked in 1993 at 17,075, after which the figure steadily fell, reaching a low of 10,117 in 1999. Gun-related homicides increased slightly after that, to a high of 11,547 in 2006, before falling again to 10,869 in 2008.[4]

That's 10,000 too many.

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@cicerone imposter,

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That's 10,000 too many.

So the killers of those 10,000 would just give up their desire to end these persons lives and not just turn to another means of killing them is that your opinion???!!!???

If we have a magical wand and could removed all 300 millions plus firearms from the US those people would still be with us instead being killed by other means for the most part?

Then there is the little problem of not having a magical wand so that any gun control laws that tend to disarmed the population will do so to the law abiding citizens more then the criminals giving the criminals an open hunting license with the disarmed population.

Good likelihood that the overall murder rate will go up not down if you try to disarmed the citizens of the US.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Good likelihood that the overall murder rate will go up not down if you try to disarmed the citizens of the US.

Given how Barack Obama's policies have ruined our economy and put so many Americans
out of a job, I imagine the rate of murder and mayhem would greatly exceed all expectations.

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