The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

Nonsense anyone with average intelligent can created a bomb in fact as orally had pointed out you can created a bomb with match heads and a pipe that would be powerful enough to kill people.

Just pour match heads into a pipe and stop up the ends. Stick a length of fuse in it and you're done.

Pointing a gun and pulling a trigger is simple.

By "just as successful" I mean "just as likely".

From that comment I bet you have never fired a gun in your life if you think that a person who never handle a firearm can just pull the trigger and have any real likelihood of harming someone!!!!!!!!!

At the gun range I had seen new shooters not being able to hit a target at 15 feet or so.

From 3' away, it's pretty easy to hit a target the size of a person.

oralloy wrote:

Nonsense. All you need to make a grenade is a few boxes of matches and a length of pipe.

You mean there is no assembly required
You mean if I put matches in a pipe, it will explode exactly when I want it to and I don't have to do anything other than pull a simple trigger? So, 3 matches in a 3" diameter schedule 80 pipe 4' long open on both ends is a bomb that will kill over 20 people? How about 200 matches in the same pipe?

Pointing a gun and pulling a trigger is simple.
Building a bomb out of matches and a pipe requires several steps some of which can go wrong which will result in the bomb not working or in it blowing up on the person making it. Even you have to admit that oralloy.

oralloy wrote:

So? That does not change the fact that banning guns will not prevent spree shooters from switching to bombs.

Actually, it will because no one can build a bomb without some instruction.

Most people trying to build one on their own will build one that doesn't work properly.

We have some instances of spree killers also building bombs and the bombs never going off and killing anyone. Columbine and the Dark Night shooter both had "bombs" that never went off. Clearly bombs aren't as easy as guns because in both of those instances guns killed many and bombs killed none.

Fill the pipe completely with match heads, and stop up the ends of the pipe (allow a fuse through to ignite the match heads).

That's it. Bomb complete. It should be about as lethal as a hand grenade.

Only if they get too ambitious, and then don't test their bombs to make sure they work.

BillRM wrote:

Nonsense anyone with average intelligent can created a bomb in fact as orally had pointed out you can created a bomb with match heads and a pipe that would be powerful enough to kill people.

That still doesn't change the fact that they have to research how to do it, collect the materials, assemble them and then hope the directions and their assembly were both correct.

Matches in a schedule 80 iron pipe won't have the same effect as matches in an ABS plastic pipe. Do you even know the difference between schedule 40 and schedule 80? Do most people?

At three feet you can killed someone faster with a baseball bat let alone a knife!!!!!!

Once more I do not think you have ever fired a gun in your life if you think the action movies will show you how to unlocked the safety or load and chamber a round or use a single action revolter or.......................

That's it. Bomb complete. It should be about as lethal as a hand grenade.

It doesn't matter. Any pipe will go boom. One type might be more effective than another, but any pipe will work.

oralloy wrote:

Just pour match heads into a pipe and stop up the ends. Stick a length of fuse in it and you're done.

No, you aren't. What is the thickness of your pipe? What are you stopping the ends up with?

A schedule 80 pipe where you stop up the ends with cotton cloth won't have nearly the effect of other ways of building it.

Where did you get your fuse from?

How long is your fuse?

How much time will you have?

How do you know the conditions you are using it in?

The UK and Australia have a better standard of living than the US and less poverty? Really?

oralloy wrote:

By "just as successful" I mean "just as likely".

And yet statistics show that is not the case.

parados wrote:

oralloy wrote:

By "just as successful" I mean "just as likely".

And yet statistics show that is not the case.

Wrong. Statistics show that gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates.