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The Gun Fight in Washington. Your opinons?

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 12:00 pm
@BillRM,
What's an "illegal government" Bill? President Assad eh?
timur
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 03:20 pm
Stephen King just wrote:
Plenty of gun advocates cling to their semi-automatics the way Amy Winehouse and Michael Jackson clung to the s-hit that was killing them.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 03:49 pm
Plenty of anti-freedom / anti-constitution advocates cling to their hatred for black Americans the way KKK does.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 03:57 pm
"The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. These limitations guarantee to protect the natural rights of liberty and property. They guarantee a number of personal freedoms, like freedom of speech and religion and the right to assemble , but if you remove or limit the Second Amendment to a state of non effectiveness, then you lose the guarantee and all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcing the guarantee, when they too are taken away."
thack45
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 04:11 pm
That's as good a demonstration as any that just because you say something doesn't make it so.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 04:15 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
"The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution.


And nothing as liberal democratic as that had ever been heard of before or has been heard of since.

According to some eminent writers, it, and the Constitution, are on life support and are only maintained by a very expensive legal fiction machine.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 07:40 pm
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2013 10:53 pm
Yet another thread on the same topic.

There will be no major legislative gon control response, leaving King Barrack to work is will through executive fiat.

Currently it doesn't look like he cares enough about the issue to push this to a Constitutional crisis.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 03:24 am
@parados,
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Trust me. People value their lives far more than they value letting 10% of the country have assault weapons.


First no one that I am aware of had suggested on this thread or this website that a ban on so call assaults alone would trigger or should trigger a revolution. So once more there are strawmen being put up over the subject.

Second it is somewhere near 48 percents of the adult population who own firearms. The label assault weapons as been address of this website is meaningless and are no more deadly then most long guns.



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ou live in a dream world.

If citizens rebelled they would find themselves quickly left out to dry by other citizens that have no desire to rebel.


It work just fine with us when we broke away from England as we hardly have 100 percents agreement on the matter with the British loyalists known as torries being not a small percent of the total population with special note of the states of the south.

Being in fact roughly 15 to 20 percent of the population at the time.

Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_(American_Revolution)Loyalism and military operations

In the opening months of the Revolutionary War, the Patriots laid siege to Boston, where most of the British forces were stationed. Elsewhere there were few British troops and the Patriots seized control of all levels of government, as well as supplies of arms and gunpowder. These actions were not without resistance. Especially in New York, New Jersey, and parts of North and South Carolina, there was considerable ambivalence about the Patriot cause. Vocal Loyalists, often with the encouragement and assistance of royal governors, recruited people to their side. In the South Carolina backcountry Loyalist recruitment oustripped that of Patriots. A brief siege at Ninety Six in the fall of 1775 was followed by a rapid rise in Patriot recruiting and a major campaign involving thousands of partisan militia resulted in the arrest or flight of most of the backcountry Loyalist leadership. North Carolina backcountry Scots and former Regulators joined forces in early 1776, but were broken as a force at the Battle of Moore's Creek Bridge.



BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 03:33 am
@timur,
Mr. King is a great writer and a drunk and many others things none of them grand him any great standing in my eyes to address the subject of the 2 amendment.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 03:36 am
@spendius,
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According to some eminent writers, it, and the Constitution, are on life support and are only maintained by a very expensive legal fiction machine.


Yes the constitution is a legal fiction that a large percent of the US population would give their lives to defend.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 06:30 am
@BillRM,
Bollocks. Any fool can spout that nonsense over the breakfast table.

Better red than dead. I bet not one in a thousand Americans would actually give their lives to defend the Constitution. The idea is self-indulgent claptrap.

How do you see a scenario where the choice becomes necessary? What has to happen before you are having to give your life to defend the Constitution?

You're talking your Man Card back.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 07:02 am
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537082_464685260259026_981629866_n.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 07:15 am


"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration.
Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."

















-Adolf Hitler, 1935
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 07:17 am
@spendius,
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Better red than dead. I bet not one in a thousand Americans would actually give their lives to defend the Constitution. The idea is self-indulgent claptrap.


One hell of a lot of US citizens had indeed been willing to die to uphold the constitution over it history including many hundreds of thousands of volunteers in the Northern Army during our civil war.

But once more you seems to have zero understanding of the American people and our system of government.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 08:28 am
@BillRM,
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One hell of a lot of US citizens had indeed been willing to die to uphold the constitution over it history


But so few are willing to hold its war criminal/terrorist governments to account for the slaughter of millions, Bill. Is that upholding the Constitution? Is it that the Constitution countenances the slaughter of innocents and the theft of their wealth?

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But once more you seems to have zero understanding of the American people and our system of government.


That's quite a stretch, isn't it, to call something which has, since its inception, been not much more than a band of thieving marauders and murders a "system of government"?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 08:32 am
@JTT,
You need to get back on your meds JTT as no matter how bad the side effects happen to be, you would be better off then living in a fantasy world where the US is the most evil nation in the history of the human race.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 08:37 am
@BillRM,
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where the US is the most evil nation in the history of the human race.


Not the most evil, Bill, just the current most evil. And certainly in the running for the top spot.

What about 'ignore', you lying ole bastard?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 08:53 am
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2013 08:59 am
@BillRM,
We've gone from banning a few types of weapons to the government now being a dictatorship? Dictatorships don't allow their citizens to vote. Your worries are nonsense Bill since no one has proposed we no longer be allowed to vote for our government. It seems that it is you that wants the dictatorship Bill. You want to dictate that the country act as you want it to.
 

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