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How Many White People have Admitted to YOU A Dislike of Minorities?

 
 
Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:46 pm
I have been surprised by the high number of people whom I have had say this to me recently. These are people who have gotten to know and like me as a restaurateur, often higher class but not always, and they only say such things after we have known each other for awhile. Interestingly enough they always say it when no one else is around or else lower their voice to almost a whisper.

I am surprised by the willingness to admit something which is so anti PC law to someone they hardly know.

Have you had such experiences? I wonder if maybe being a successful businessman is falsely leading people to assume that I am Rightwing.
 
JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:57 pm
Many. I'm from a politically conservative family, some of whom are open bigots. I also spend a significant time talking both online and IRL with people along the Gulf Coast. Nothing surprises me any longer.
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 01:00 pm
It is neither rare nor common. When I hear it, it always sounds so gosh darn rational. And yes, they do kind of lower their voices.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 01:08 pm
@roger,
it has been for me, but I wonder if spending most of the last 15 years working in state or federal government has meant that I was sheltered....as in such talk has such a high neg consequence there that people tend to keep their mouth shut unless they are pretty damn sure that you agree with them...which I do not.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 01:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
I hear it all the time. Things like "I can believe that white man is dating a black woman" or "you know all the blacks at the hospital steal drugs".
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 07:43 pm
Wait! Some in the majorities dislike other majorities. Catholics and Protestants get along, in my opinion, since in this wealthy country both groups can co-exist with the accouterments of middle-class living.

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 08:12 pm
I have only had 1 person admit it to me, and when he did I threw him out of my house, and he hasn't been been back since.
That person was my father in law.
I was not raised to think like he does, and I wont tolerate it in my house.
According to my wife, I am the first person to ever stand up to him and his attitude.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 08:50 pm
@mysteryman,
I was raised as an only kid moving as a baby from Los Angeles to Dayton and from Dayton to Santa Monica to Washington DC to Santa Monica to New York City to Chicago to Santa Monica to Chicago to Los Angeles for a bit back to Chicago to Los Angeles for a long time -
never really ran into that.
(edit - I had to reword that)

I probably did, but it didn't sink in. I did run into prejudices, but they weren't about color.
My mother was chary about protestants.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 04:13 am
@hawkeye10,
You don't always know until after you've been pally. Back in the 80s I was living in a shared house with a group of mates. One night we had a party and a Somali friend of mine turned up with a Kenyan guy I'd never met before. It was right at the beginning of the party and nobody else had turned up, even some of my housemates were still out.

Then a friend of one of the other housemates turned up. I'd known him for about six months, and had no inkling he might be racist. He told me straight out he didn't think much of my friends. My Somali friend was very upset that I could be friends with such a person. I wasn't friends with him, but had sat drinking and chatting with him before, but up until that point race had never come up.

Not the best start to a party.
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Pearlylustre
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 05:10 am
@hawkeye10,
My husband is Asian so I'd be surprised if anyone was whispering that kind of thing to me....but I know who the racists among my family and acquaintances are anyway.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 05:37 am
How Many White People have Admitted to YOU A Dislike of Minorities?

as a white person, i actually admit to disliking the majority, most human beings i meet

i do, however, quite like the majority of dogs i meet

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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 06:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:


Have you had such experiences? I wonder if maybe being a successful businessman is falsely leading people to assume that I am Rightwing.

You can't be prorape, prolife, probig business/antibusiness regulation and still be considered liberal.

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These are people who have gotten to know and like me as a restaurateur...

Okay. Just because you say you are a successful businessman doesn't mean you're not lying online.

I've asked on many occasions, on what basis do you consider yourself a radical liberal (a self proclaimed term that is NEVER backed up by what beliefs you post here).

At worst, you're an anarchist/libertarian hybrid. That's not liberal in any sense of the word. By definition you're a protoconservative. You apparently want the world to go back to the feudal days if not farther.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 06:23 pm
@tsarstepan,
AS for the pathetically naive (intentional?) thread title question? While in the army, I knew more then a handful of skin heads and skin head wannabes. Their dislike of blacks were particularly pronounced.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 07:29 pm
I (cracker) grew up in Mississippi and never understood racism. On the other hand, I heard racist comments all througout my time there. Being so outnumbered, I couldn't say anything most of the time, but sometimes I did. And was ostracised for it. My best friend still lives there and sometimes he still makes racist comments. Not much I can do about it except voice my dissent.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 08:22 pm
It's not hard to recognize. We all need 'the other side' to direct our disdain and anger at. It's natural and ignorant at the same time.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 08:38 pm
@IRFRANK,
This thread was intended to be about a willingness to voice such an unpc thought, especially to someone they hardly know. I went a lot of years with this rarely to never happening to me.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2012 10:26 pm
@tsarstepan,
Quote:
I've asked on many occasions, on what basis do you consider yourself a radical liberal (a self proclaimed term that is NEVER backed up by what beliefs you post here).

i never made that claim, i consider myself to be a radical leftist. Liberals I despise for being closed minded, stupid, and ethically challenged. I considered myself to be a liberal till such time as I could no longer manage to hold my nose.


my views which go left are

a strong belief that we are all created equal and should be treated equal as much as possible by the state

strong progressiveness to the point that I have given up in our current dying civilization and want to get to work birthing what comes next

have a belief that markets are only sometimes useful, and only sometimes should be allowed to operate with freedom.

am a strong believer in unions and co-operatives

believe that the best human efforts come though co-operative efforts

am willing to nationalize bad citizen industries without compensation

dont believe in the death penalty

dont believe that the law or punishment is the best remedy for most social problems

believe that the governments right to pursue its social agenda ends at advocacy except in cases where the pursuit of justice activates the justice system. a direct violation of personal rights by one citizen towards another is required to give the government jurisdiction to use the force of law.

am generally hostile to global free trade programs

am 100% hostile to global free flows of capital

believe that all wealth belongs to the collective, it is only held and entrusted to individual citizens (to include corporations and businesses) , and this wealth can be removed at any time upon the direction of the majority.

believe in the governments right to redistribute wealth by force, though this is often not a good idea.

believe that the will of the people trumps the will of the government

believe that democracy is dependent upon having a free people who are well educated and whom retain the ability to control their own lives according to their will.

believe that the state has almost no right to regulate intimate relationships

believe that citizens should maintain sexual freedom unless there is an extremely good reason to remove this freedom

believe that all actions of the government should be transparent, that is to say who is cause the action and what the aim is must be stated clearly and truthfully

believe that law should be clear, and that the state which cherry picks citizens to make an example of should be strongly condemned, and removed from power if such abuses of the citizen are not corrected

i believe that the government or any group or individual has almost no rights to interfere in the conversations between citizens. free speech is sacrosanct.

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i could continue but this should be enough to illustrate my point
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2012 03:03 am
@tsarstepan,
Not all skinheads are racist. The phenomenon occured when white working class men in the UK began to go to ska concerts with newly arrived black immigrants. At first it was very anti-racist, and there are still a lot of skinheads around who stay true to the original message.

A few years ago I was on a demonstation in Winchester opposed to a high up (either no. 2 or 3) in the racist BNP, being employed as a bus driver, and there were far more skinheads in our crowd than in the tiny counter demonstration over the road.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2012 03:05 am
@hawkeye10,
I doubt you understand what Socialism really is. You do spout Nazi ideology though, like your suggestion we should sterilise those who don't match up to your notions of genetic purity.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2012 09:12 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Not all skinheads are racist.

I got that impression too regarding some of the skinheads I've met in the army. None of these individuals were literally skin heads nor were they advent followers/admirers of Hitler and his Nazi agenda so as individuals they were interesting characters.
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