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Dr. Pepper Ad Sparks Religious Indignation

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 10:59 am
@ehBeth,
The Girl is so goofy for DP she uses DP-flavored lip balm in the winter time. I stopped drinking Canajun DP when i saw anti-freeze in the ingredient list.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 11:09 am
@mismi,
mismi wrote:

Rosborne wrote:

Quote:
When are the religious people of a more realistic persuasion going to start standing up to the fanatics who are giving their religions a bad name.


Frank wrote:
Quote:

I've been wondering that for a long time.


It wouldn't matter....folks would still find a way to belittle us.


I think it does matter, and there are Christians who have stood up to the fanatics. They deserve my respect, and receive it.

There are scientists who are practicing Christians. There are Christians who don't have a problem saying that they believe in evolution etc etc

I think it's important to know that and to understand it.

It is no different than moderate Muslims speaking out against Muslim extremists. I think it needs to be done.

IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 04:35 pm
@ehBeth,
It absolutely needs to be done . I'd like to see church leaders condemn this recent film. Take their own leaders to task when they do the wrong things. I don't see it.
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mismi
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 04:52 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
I think it does matter, and there are Christians who have stood up to the fanatics. They deserve my respect, and receive it.

There are scientists who are practicing Christians. There are Christians who don't have a problem saying that they believe in evolution etc etc

I think it's important to know that and to understand it.

It is no different than moderate Muslims speaking out against Muslim extremists. I think it needs to be done.


I see what you are saying. Smile

I need more gumption perhaps...
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 04:57 pm
@mismi,
I think if you start by appreciating that it does matter when we stand up and say "that's wrong", then you've taken a pretty good step.

When and how and what to say/do - that's another move.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 04:57 pm
@Setanta,
When my job required lots of driving, I began drinking DP two to three times daily. The bottle caps indicated winner/loser status. Once I won $50. After a couple of months of this, my stomach began to become ulcerated. I had to switch from DP to Mylanta.
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mismi
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 07:14 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
I stopped drinking Canajun DP when i saw anti-freeze in the ingredient list


Seriously? That is sick.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 08:02 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

I think it does matter, and there are Christians who have stood up to the fanatics. They deserve my respect, and receive it.

There are scientists who are practicing Christians. There are Christians who don't have a problem saying that they believe in evolution etc etc

I think it's important to know that and to understand it.

It is no different than moderate Muslims speaking out against Muslim extremists. I think it needs to be done.
Those were exactly my points when I wrote the original post.

I'm a little surprised that there isn't a stronger voice from within the religious community, against fanaticism. The fanatics do harm to every, but perhaps their greatest harm is to their own religion.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 08:03 pm
@mismi,
propylene glycol is in lots of things other than doctor pepper.

scary what you find when you start reading labels
mismi
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 08:22 pm
@Rockhead,
At least my blood won't freeze in my veins.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 18 Sep, 2012 08:24 pm
@Rockhead,
http://www.ehow.com/list_6962663_foods-drinks-propylene-glycol.html#page=1
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carolgreen145
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2012 06:23 pm
@iFishy,
What kind of colleges would stop selling Dr. Pepper because of that ad?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 04:38 am
@mismi,
mismi wrote:
Quote:
I stopped drinking Canajun DP when i saw anti-freeze in the ingredient list


Seriously? That is sick.


It's only in the Canajun version, Darlin' . . . you don't gotta worry about it in the U.S. of A.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 05:26 am
@mismi,
You will see that they use PROPYLENE GLYCOL, not regular antifreeze. Its like the difference between corn alcohol and wood alcohol, (METHANOL, v ETHANOL).
Propylene glycol is used as a drying agent in some foods and it is akso used to "Carry flavors" . Thats why the Canadian DP always tastes richer than US.
If your diabetic PG i like any sugar, and we shouldnt ingest great quantities of any organic substance (like alcohol) its not good for the old filtration system.
mismi
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 09:20 pm
@Setanta,
ah. Smile Relief.

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mismi
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 09:22 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
You will see that they use PROPYLENE GLYCOL, not regular antifreeze. Its like the difference between corn alcohol and wood alcohol, (METHANOL, v ETHANOL).
Propylene glycol is used as a drying agent in some foods and it is akso used to "Carry flavors" . Thats why the Canadian DP always tastes richer than US.
If your diabetic PG i like any sugar, and we shouldnt ingest great quantities of any organic substance (like alcohol) its not good for the old filtration system.


Alright then. Makes sense. I do love Diet DP ....which is probably horrid for me - but SO yummy! I love the burn.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 09:23 pm
@mismi,
" I love the burn. '

you should switch to tequila...

(it's all natural)
mismi
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2012 09:25 pm
@Rockhead,
That doesn't taste as good. <shiver>

Truly - the taste makes me gag unless it is in a concoction of lime, triple sec and sugar....gross.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 05:01 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:


I think it does matter, and there are Christians who have stood up to the fanatics. They deserve my respect, and receive it.

There are scientists who are practicing Christians. There are Christians who don't have a problem saying that they believe in evolution etc etc

I think it's important to know that and to understand it.

It is no different than moderate Muslims speaking out against Muslim extremists. I think it needs to be done.


No different?

On the one had we have a ridiculous reaction to a commercial ad that hasn't caused international incidents, involved the destruction of property and the loss of lives, or resulted in apologies and lies from the US government or an assault on Free Speech. On the other hand we have a manufactured ridiculous reaction to an obscure movie trailer that has...

The reaction to the Dr. Pepper ad is so silly and inconsequential that there is no need for anyone to stand up and challenge it, and anyone who does is hardly demonstrating bravery. The Creationist critics of the ad aren't going to wipe out a village because one it's people have loudly and publicly called them out on it.

Although there is very little equivalence of impact between Christian fanatics in the US and Muslim fanatics anywhere, an intellectual argument can be made against all religious fanaticism. Unfortunately the people who love to shout the alarm on any and all examples of Christian fanaticism, rarely do so when the fanatics are Muslim. They are also the people who insist, whenever there is a violent and destructive example of Muslim fanaticism, that we understand that the majority of Muslims don't endorse the violent fanaticism.

This may very well be the case but, at the very least, the images associated with these acts might suggest otherwise, and, with the exception of recent activity in Libya, we don't ever see a response to the fanatics by the moderates that might make us more confident with the assumption that the fanatics are in the minority.

It's interesting that the people who want to remind us of moderate Muslims, rarely if ever choose to remind us of moderate Christians when their brand of fanatic rear their ugly heads.

From my point of view, neither of these two religions is superior to the other, but the current manifestations of fanaticism within their practice are very, very different.

Obviously most liberals agree with me or we would be seeing incredibly funny, and Tony Award winning musicals on Broadway mocking Islam as well as Mormonism. Our tax dollars would be spent to promote a Piss Mohammed as well as a Piss Christ.

There is nothing particularly brave about anyone criticizing Christian fanaticism, in the West but there is something cowardly about Westerners running from criticism of Muslim fanaticism.

Arguments that it isn't fear that prevents our artists and writers from taking on Islamist fanatics, but a concern about promoting bigotry are a pathetic dodge.





wmwcjr
 
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Reply Sun 23 Sep, 2012 09:56 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I gave you a "thumbs up" to cancel the zero you had.

So, you get a "thumbs down" simply because you told the truth. The so-called "progressives" give you a "thumbs down" because they can't refute your self-evident observation. They just don't like what you say. Besides, you're not part of their little clique.

What's really ironic is that I'm not a political conservative or a Republican and will never become one. But posting in this forum for three years has been enough to lower my opinion of many so-called "progressives." Unfortunately, the noble liberalism of Hubert Humphrey, Henry "Scoop" Jackson, and Martin Luther King Jr. in which I fervently believe is as dead as a doornail. No wonder I stopped voting in federal and state elections!
 

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