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Can both "by" be omitted?

 
 
Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 09:54 am

Evidence shows that it's possible for women with primary ovarian insufficiency to conceive, by using lower-dose drug A to induce ovulation after inhibiting high concentrations of FSH by using drug E.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 10:52 am
@oristarA,
I can see how the first "by" can be dropped out but not the second.
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contrex
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 12:43 pm
In my opinion both instances of 'by' can be omitted without affecting the meaning.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 01:06 pm
@oristarA,
For what it’s worth I agree with Tsar
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contrex
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 01:41 pm
The preposition 'by' to indicating a means can usually be omitted before the word 'using'.

Turn the screw by using a screwdriver.
Turn the screw using a screwdriver.
I paid my hotel bill by using my credit card.
I paid my hotel bill using my credit card.

Also in other situations:
I avoided the guards by moving only when they weren't looking.
I avoided the guards, moving only when they weren't looking.

I do not see why a distinction is being made by some people between the first 'by' and the second. Each performs the same task which is duplicated by the word 'using'. If the first can be dispensed with, why not the second? In the name of consistency of style, either both should stay, or both should go.

conceive [by] using drug A
inhibit FSH [by] using drug E


Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 01:43 pm
They are harmless operatives. Using them doesn't distort the meaning, dropping one or both neither improves the writing nor makes it more difficult to understand.

I vote to leave them as they are.

Joe( by the by)Nation
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 02:08 pm
@contrex,
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If the first can be dispensed with, why not the second?
Because omitting “by” makes it seem that the FSH is doing the using
contrex
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 02:55 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

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If the first can be dispensed with, why not the second?
Because omitting “by” makes it seem that the FSH is doing the using


No it doesn't.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 04:31 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


Evidence shows that it's possible for women with primary ovarian insufficiency to conceive, by using lower-dose drug A to induce ovulation after inhibiting high concentrations of FSH by using drug E.


Thank you guys.
If not used "inhibiting", can we use "the inhibition of" instead?
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jul, 2012 10:45 am
@oristarA,
yes. but don't.
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