Oh.. so Obama tried to ban conceal and carry by NOT introducing any legislation to do so.
All of the candidates, except Hynes, said they opposed allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons. Hynes and Chico said states, not the federal government, should regulate the matter.
"I consider this an issue for the states to decide, not the federal government," Chico said.
Obama disagreed. He backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement. He cited Texas as an example of a place where a law allowing people to carry weapons has "malfunctioned" because hundreds of people granted licenses had prior convictions.
"National legislation will prevent other states' flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents," Obama said.
http://web.archive.org/web/20081204033359/www.icadp.org/page236.html
Sure.. and how many have been wounded and killed by that in the last 10 years in the US?
But I grew out of it.
Quite analagous to pornography, when you think about it. You know it's there, but it's better to steer clear of it.
Weapons are fascinating, there's no doubt about that.
Magazines about firepower sell well, and museums have whole galleries devoted to the history of the subject.
When I was a lad, I had a great interest in all,
from catapults and crossbows to military hardware.
But I grew out of it.
Quite analagous to pornography, when you think about it.
You know it's there, but it's better to steer clear of it.
Teen 'thug' busted for shooting four at B'klyn playground: police
By KIRSTAN CONLEY
August 17, 2012
A 15-year-old was arrested for a Monday shooting that injured four people at Fish Park in Brooklyn, police said.
Cops busted a teenage thug for shooting four other teens at a Brooklyn playground earlier this week, authorities said.
Darren Wint, 15, was nabbed Thursday for attempted murder after witnesses linked him to the attack, police said.
Wint rode a BMX bicycle into a crowded Fish Playground on Fulton Street in Brownsville where teens were playing basketball around 6:30 p.m., Monday.
Cops said he fired several shots.
Two 16-year-old boys were struck in the arm. A 13-year-old girl and an 18-year-old man suffered graze wounds to the back.
Wint was charged with four counts of criminal possession of a weapon and four counts of assault, in addition to the attempted murder charges.
Monday’s bloodshed was the latest in a series of shootings that have killed or wounded innocent bystanders at city playgrounds, basketball courts or streets this summer.
Four-year-old Lloyd Morgan was fatally shot by a stray bullet while near a basketball court at the Forest Houses in the Bronx on July 22.
Police believe 14-year-old honor student Kemar Bryan Brooks was also killed by a stray bullet July 26 while playing tennis in Haffen Park in the Bronx.
Three-year-old Isaiah Gonzalez was shot in the leg while playing in the sprinklers at the Roosevelt Houses in Bedford Stuyvesant and two-year-old Ariyanna Prince was shot in a drive-by shooting in Brownsville.
Thirteen-year-old Kentrell Simpson was also wounded in the shooting that injured Ariyanna, her father and three others.
One teen and two young adults were wounded by stray bullets from a shooting at the St. Nicholas Houses in Harlem June 3. That shooting killed 25-year-old Akeem Green.
And Five people were wounded at Harlem’s famed Rucker Park on July 25. Ricardo Laing, 24, from Westchester, was charged with attempted murder.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/teen_thug_busted_for_shooting_four_ouUCGvgFLZNaydTEmiQ8xM#ixzz23uv3JxT6
The family of a young Washington state girl severely injured when a gun in a classmate's backpack went off filed a $10 million claim against the Bremerton school district Wednesday, saying it failed to heed clues that the boy might be dangerous.
Third-grader Amina Kocer-Bowman, now 9, spent about six weeks in the hospital, required numerous surgeries and suffered critical, lifelong injuries when the bullet pierced her internal organs and lodged in her spine on Feb. 22.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/15/wash-district-being-sued-over-backpack-shooting/#ixzz23uxbJo00
Friends hope prayer, love heal Ocoee girl shot by stray bullet
August 1, 2012|
By Susan Jacobson, Orlando Sentinel
Friends and family of Danielle Sampson came together Wednesday night in the hope that prayer and love would heal the 15-year-old Ocoee girl, who was shot in the head Sunday while riding through Pine Hills in her parents' van...
Danielle was hit by a stray bullet as people in two vehicles exchanged gunfire on North Avenue at Powers Drive, investigators said....
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-08-01/news/os-teen-shot-prayer-vigil-20120801_1_ocoee-girl-stray-bullet-hope-church
Bridgeport girl, shot after Sweet 16 party, dies
by Stacy Davis and Michael P. Mayko
July 21, 2012
BRIDGEPORT -- A teenage girl is dead, less than a day after gunmen sprayed the Brooks Street porch she was on, striking her in the head and wounding her two friends.
Keijahnae "Nu Nu" Robinson, 15, was pronounced dead at Bridgeport Hospital Saturday evening, city officials said.
The two friends, a 15-year-old male and a 17-year-old female, also shot in the attack, are being treated for non-life-threatening injuries.
Robinson became the 13th homicide in Bridgeport. Just two hours before she was shot, Mi Lin Zhao, the 30-year-old owner of the New Hong Kong Chinese Restaurant on Wood Avenue, became homicide number 12, killed while fending off armed robbers on his way home.
"My thoughts and prayers are with the families of Keijahnae Robinson and Mi Lin Zhao,"Mayor Bill Finch said last night. "Both are innocent victims of the widespread use of illegal guns in our society."...
"We will continue to work tirelessly with the state, federal authorities and leaders at every level to tackle the extremely tough issue of gun violence that is impacting cities all over our country," the mayor said...
He also promised "to advocate for the closure of illegal gun sale loopholes through the Mayors Against Illegal Guns effort."
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Bridgeport-girl-shot-after-Sweet-16-party-dies-3725251.php#ixzz23uyvctQv
Girl, 12, wounded on her front porch on Southwest Side
Eighth-grader shot in leg while doing her homework
August 17, 2012
By William Lee, Chicago Tribune reporter
A 12-year-old girl was shot in the leg as she did her homework outside her Southwest Side home Wednesday evening, Chicago police said.
A gunman in his late teens or early 20s fired about 10 shots at the home in the 6500 block of South Talman Avenue in the Marquette Park neighborhood about 6:30 p.m., police said...
A recent Tribune analysis found that the police district that covers the Chicago Lawn and Marquette Park neighborhoods has seen more children wounded in gun violence this year than any other of the city's 22 police districts.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-17/news/ct-met-girl-shot-homework-20120817_1_front-porch-marquette-park-chicago-lawn
Detroit man arrested in shooting of 3-year-old girl who was shot multiple times but survived
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
August 18, 2012
DETROIT — Authorities say a 20-year-old man has been arrested on charges related to the shooting of a 3-year-old girl in Detroit.
Police said Vernon Ray Coles of Detroit was arrested in Warren and charged Friday with two counts each of assault with intent to murder and felonious assault. He is expected to be arraigned Saturday at Detroit's 36th District Court.
Authorities say the girl was shot Tuesday after a neighborhood dispute escalated...
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/f7b0e8f8a4094e29bfe57da02b0e9670/MI--Girl-Shot-Detroit
Police: 11-year-old girl shot in Lawrence
AP / August 17, 2012
LAWRENCE, Mass. (AP) — Police say a sleeping 11-year-old Lawrence girl was grazed by a bullet fired from outside her home.
The girl was shot in the shoulder at about 4 a.m. Friday and her injuries are not considered life threatening. She was not targeted.
Police say the shooting stemmed from a dispute involving tenants on the second floor of the three-story home.
A man apparently involved in an argument with second-floor tenants returned later and fired several shots at the building from a car parked outside.
The girl lives in the first floor. Police recovered eight or nine shell casings at the scene.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2012/08/17/police-year-old-girl-shot-lawrence/usQzXpfzXMsaB2mYUCTn7M/story.html
Shooting victims press Obama, Romney for tougher gun screenings
By Mike Lillis - 08/17/12
Victims of the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting massacre are urging President Obama and Mitt Romney to support tougher screenings for potential gun buyers.
The advocates say the string of summer shooting sprees around the country make clear that gaps in the background-check system — gaps Congress attempted to close following the Tech tragedy — remain open and need addressing.Victims of the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting massacre are urging President Obama and Mitt Romney to support tougher screenings for potential gun buyers.
They're pressing Obama and Romney, the GOP's presumed presidential nominee, to define a strategy for keeping guns out of the hands of those prohibited from having them.
"We know firsthand that gaps and flaws in our nation’s gun laws allow guns to fall too easily into the hands of criminals and other dangerous people," 67 Virginia Tech survivors and victim relatives wrote Thursday to Obama and Romney. "Now is the time to fix our nation’s broken gun laws, but we need our nation’s leaders to tell us the specific steps you will take to prevent more bloodshed."
A series of high-profile shootings in recent weeks has thrust the country's gun laws — among the most lenient in the world — back into the national spotlight. Last month in Aurora, Colo., a lone gunman stormed a packed movie theater and shot 70 people, killing 12. On Aug. 5, a lone shooter entered a Sikh temple outside Milwaukee and killed five members of the group. And on Monday, a man facing eviction near Texas A&M University shot six people, killing two, including the constable serving the eviction notice.
Both Obama and Romney have reacted to the shootings by offering condolences, but neither presidential contender has proposed a specific plan designed to prevent similar tragedies in the future.
Obama came the closest, suggesting after Aurora that policymakers should do "everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons."
"We should check someone's criminal record before they can check out a gun seller," he said.
But the president also hasn't stuck his neck out for tougher laws, citing the difficulty — some say futility — of moving such proposals through Congress in the current political environment.
Romney — who was a champion of tougher gun laws as governor of Massachusetts — has rejected new restrictions altogether.
"I don't think gun laws are the answer," Romney told Piers Morgan after the Aurora shooting.
Such responses don't sit well with the victims of gun violence, who are growing more forceful in their calls for the nation's leaders to act.
"[We] demand a plan from you to fix the broken background check system and reduce gun violence," the Virginia Tech victims wrote Thursday.
The letter highlights the shifting tactics adopted by gun reformers in recent years. No longer are they arguing against gun ownership — a 2008 Supreme Court decision pretty much settled that matter — but instead they're fighting for ways to keep violent people from obtaining the weapons they would use on others.
That debate centers around the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), an FBI database through which licensed gun dealers are required to screen potential buyers before making a sale. Under federal law, felons, illegal immigrants, spousal abusers and the severely mentally ill are barred from buying or owning firearms.
The system is largely voluntary, however, as states are encouraged — but not required — to report such information to NICS. Additionally, unlicensed gun sellers are not required to screen buyers at all — an enormous hole in the screening process that allows most anyone to purchase firearms....
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/244199-shooting-victims-press-obama-romney-for-tougher-gun-screenings
NRA Locked in Gun Battle With Pennsylvania Mayors Over Town Laws
By William Selway - Aug 16, 2012
Pennsylvania’s mayors are waging a running gun battle with the National Rifle Association.
First, mayors backed a statewide law aimed at cracking down on trafficking by forcing residents to report lost and stolen firearms. The NRA opposed it, and it died in the Legislature.
Then, more than two dozen localities, led by Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, passed similar requirements on their own. An NRA-led lawsuit failed after judges said plaintiffs didn’t have standing to go to court. Now the gun-rights organization is championing a bill that would let it sue cities over the reporting rules -- even if no one is charged for breaking them.
“We continue to fight the fight realizing we don’t have enough political clout to win the battle,” said Allentown Mayor Ed Pawlowski, a Democrat whose city passed the rules. “All we’re trying to do is protect our citizens.”
What’s unfolding in Pennsylvania, where 384 people were slain last year in its four biggest cities, shows how aggressive the NRA can be in fighting what it sees as challenges to gun rights. With Congress loath to act, the battles have shifted to state capitals, where the NRA has successfully backed more expansive self-defense laws, helped defeat measures aimed at identifying guns used in crimes and supported challenges to cities that pass firearm rules...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/nra-locked-in-gun-battle-with-pennsylvania-mayors-over-town-laws.html
The Federal and states governments together can not make it hard it get a gun in th US...
The only thing you can do is interfere with law abiding citizens from being arm to roughly the same degree as the criminals.
So to sum up you wish to make it safer for the killers to kill or rob or rape or what have you.
They certainly can make it considerably more difficult than it is now for the wrong people to obtain guns
Spend a lot of time on the darknet do you?
Does the problem of gun violence concern you at all? Do you even recognize that there is a problem?
Spend a lot of time on the darknet do you?
He obviously supports buying guns that way.
Do you hear him suggesting any curbs or checks on internet sales of guns?