Mass Shooting At Denver Batman Movie Premiere

@snood,

snood wrote:

If you weren't unwilling comic relief, there'd be no use at all for you here.

He's not even good for that. He is very predictable, his responses are repetitive, and he's a revolting racist with murderous intentions towards those he deems inferior.

If he could make me laugh there would be some point to his existance. I can't see any at all, other than serving as a warning against home schooling, a shallow gene pool and listening to too much talk radio.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

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It is always a good sign to find yourself in agreement with me, since I am so often in agreement with the truth.

You are fooling nobody.

Wrong, he's fooling himself. Quite spectacularly in fact.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

He's not even good for that. He is very predictable, his responses are repetitive,

You don't honestly believe your childish name-calling merits any sort of creative response?

Cut-n-paste is more than enough for vermin like you.

izzythepush wrote:

and he's a revolting racist

Liar.

Freaks may find me revolting, but I'm not a racist.

izzythepush wrote:

with murderous intentions towards those he deems inferior.

!!!!????

Liar.

I deem you inferior. The only thing I intend to do to you is spit on you through the internet.

Same for all the other freaks I deem inferior.

izzythepush wrote:

home schooling,

Liar.

izzythepush wrote:

a shallow gene pool

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own genetic deficiency.

izzythepush wrote:

talk radio.

Liar.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Wrong, he's fooling himself. Quite spectacularly in fact.

You're too stupid to be able to point out any fact that I have wrong, even if there were any to find.

But notice that the people who aren't stupid, also cannot manage to point out any fact I am wrong about.

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@oralloy,

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But notice that the people who aren't stupid, also cannot manage to point out any fact I am wrong about.

You are wrong about how free Americans are. I provided you with a guide to what freedom is with Haggard's African tales which are derived from personal experience.

But even then he was not free of his cultural conditioning.

So you are wrong to assert that nobody has shown you are wrong. Of course, you are free to define freedom in such a way that you can't be wrong. But that's solipsism.

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@izzythepush,

By the way, if you do requests, could you throw in more whining about the Kerchers?

I *like* making fun of the only people in history to have actually helped the perp get a lighter sentence after he raped and murdered their daughter/sister.

Mr. Green

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

You are wrong about how free Americans are.

Not at all. Free people have the right to carry guns for their personal defense, should they choose to do so, and without having to justify to anyone why they might "need" to do so.

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@oralloy,

That is incorrect on your own evidence.

Your choice is restricted by a raft of laws which vary from state to state. That's not freedom.

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Free people have the right to carry guns for their personal defense, should they choose to do so, and without having to justify to anyone why they might "need" to do so.

That's freedom and I have experienced it. It's in operation in parts of Syria. Your "Not at all" is what is incorrect. And "for personal defence" is a cop out. Freedom is the right to openly or covertly carry guns for any reason. Or any weapons. At any time.

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@spendius,

A business interest is manipulating your mind.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

That is incorrect on your own evidence.

Your choice is restricted by a raft of laws which vary from state to state. That's not freedom.

Only a handful of states block people from carrying guns in public, and those laws are unconstitutional. Such laws will not exist within the US two years from now.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

A business interest is manipulating your mind.

The "business interest" fallacy is a canard. The gun manufacturers actually do not object to the violation of our freedom.

The NRA's defense of our freedom is entirely the result of a grass roots effort. It happens in spite of the gun manufacturers, rather than because of them.

We've had to rap a few of the gun manufacturers on their knuckles in fact, when they've gotten too far out of line in their support of gun control.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

A business interest is manipulating your mind.

What mind?

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@oralloy,

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The gun manufacturers actually do not object to the violation of our freedom.

Have they a choice?

And you claim you are free and even the gun manufactures acquiesce to un-freedom. I bet they have to consult a rule book before theyaddress an envelope.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Oralloy wrote:
The gun manufacturers actually do not object to the violation of our freedom.

Have they a choice?

Well, yes and no.

If they want to stay in business, they have to support our freedom. They realize that now.

There was a time some years back when Smith and Wesson dared to support an unconstitutional ban on assault weapons.

We boycotted them so hard that the holding company that owned them was forced to sell them at a huge loss.

Now the gun manufacturers are all much better about supporting our rights and freedom. (They likely still have nightmares about getting on the wrong side of us civil rights activists again.)

Technically though, the gun manufacturers do have a choice. They can oppose our freedom so long as they are willing to accept being driven out of business.

spendius wrote:

And you claim you are free and even the gun manufactures acquiesce to un-freedom.

The gun manufacturers have learned their lesson. They dare not oppose our freedom again.

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@oralloy,

It's all a bluff oralloy. You are no freedom fighter. You don't get to be a civil right's activist by declaring yourself to be one and learning all the right lines to spout. I've see 15 year old girls putting that one over. It's really a very, very safe way to be a ******* freedom fighter I must say and I congratulate you on taking such good care of yourself. And it's entangling you in so many knots that you no longer have the freedom to allow yourself to ponder, if only as an attempt to see the other side, or to think it might have a point, the idea of a gun free America.

There are too many people on the other side for them all to be stupid, The IQ distribution curve proves that.

Some of them are in favour of freedom and civil rights and they might think your way of pursuing such objectives will lead to a reduction in both freedom and civil rights.

They know that it is part of the deal for living in the lap of luxury that some freedom, personal sovereignty and civil rights have to be given up and thus it follows that those who refuse to surrender to the fact of life are not strictly entitled to participate in the luxury and should be cast out into the desert with nothing but a breech cloth for company so they can have their freedom without any fannying about with cheap words.

So give it half an hour of your time. Imagining America without guns as a mental exercise. You are free to go back after half an hour to imagining America awash with the most impolite of all objects: a concealed gun.

No wonder you all say "Have a nice day" to everybody. I would if I thought you might be tooled up.

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@oralloy,

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There was a time some years back when Smith and Wesson dared to support an unconstitutional ban on assault weapons.

We boycotted them so hard that the holding company that owned them was forced to sell them at a huge loss.

You must mean that they supported a government ban and that government didn't come to the rescue. There's a thing!! A load of office workers dream up an idea and let a manufacturing company that supports it hang out in the wind.

Are you in favour of organised boycotts as a method of amending the law. But being in an organisation entails a loss of freedom.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

It's all a bluff oralloy. You are no freedom fighter. You don't get to be a civil right's activist by declaring yourself to be one and learning all the right lines to spout.

You will never take my freedom away from me.

spendius wrote:

And it's entangling you in so many knots that you no longer have the freedom to allow yourself to ponder, if only as an attempt to see the other side, or to think it might have a point, the idea of a gun free America.

There are too many people on the other side for them all to be stupid, The IQ distribution curve proves that.

Not all stupid, no.

I can tell the stupid ones because they are the ones who offer only name-calling, with no intelligent arguments. The intelligent ones on the other hand offer decent conversation.

spendius wrote:

Some of them are in favour of freedom and civil rights and they might think your way of pursuing such objectives will lead to a reduction in both freedom and civil rights.

They are wrong. Those people are actually the perpetrators of an atrocity (the loss of freedom) on their fellow countrymen.

spendius wrote:

They know that it is part of the deal for living in the lap of luxury that some freedom, personal sovereignty and civil rights have to be given up and thus it follows that those who refuse to surrender to the fact of life are not strictly entitled to participate in the luxury and should be cast out into the desert with nothing but a breech cloth for company so they can have their freedom without any fannying about with cheap words.

So give it half an hour of your time. Imagining America without guns as a mental exercise. You are free to go back after half an hour to imagining America awash with the most impolite of all objects: a concealed gun.

No need to imagine. I've seen the horrors that gun bans impose on a population, as such draconian laws have been imposed in other countries.

I promise that it will never happen in America.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

You must mean that they supported a government ban and that government didn't come to the rescue. There's a thing!! A load of office workers dream up an idea and let a manufacturing company that supports it hang out in the wind.

How could the government come to their rescue? By giving them contracts to sell their products to the government?

spendius wrote:

Are you in favour of organised boycotts as a method of amending the law. But being in an organisation entails a loss of freedom.

Boycotts are good for pressuring business. Not sure how good they would be at pressuring government.

We have a better way. The NRA sends out little cards to all their members, advising them who to vote for or against in every election, even the local minor elections, and we all vote exactly for what is described on our cards.

Then the NRA tells the politicians that if they don't do exactly as they are told, they will be voted out of office in the next election.

It works quite well. Look how the Democratic Speaker of the House reacted when Obama started babbling about an unconstitutional ban on assault weapons as soon as he got to the White House:

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/18461-pelosi-throws-cold-water-on-weapons-ban

I've drifted away from voting the NRA line in recent years, because the threat had seemed diminished. But I think perhaps it is time to start voting according to NRA instructions again.

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@oralloy,

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You will never take my freedom away from me.

You've got about as much commonsense as did Charlton Heston. Meaning, not much.

And thinking of movie stars and male fantasies, with your armament do you see yourself more Randolph Scott in a white hat or Robert de Niro in Taxi Driver?

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Oralloy wrote:
You will never take my freedom away from me.

You've got about as much commonsense as did Charlton Heston. Meaning, not much.

People who want to abolish freedom often claim common sense as their ally.

I notice that despite your earlier vague insinuation, you did not actually manage to point out any place where I was wrong.

McTag wrote:

And thinking of movie stars and male fantasies, with your armament do you see yourself more Randolph Scott in a white hat or Robert de Niro in Taxi Driver?

I am not familiar with either movie (I presume you are talking about movies).

I wouldn't mind getting a good bear gun in case that black bear decides to try to munch on me while I'm out in the woods.

I'm good at procrastinating though, so I might not ever bother.

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