Mass Shooting At Denver Batman Movie Premiere

@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

... so I likely will soon be leaving A2K for a more morally upstanding community.

Double thumbs up.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Oralloy wrote:
The only relevant difference between cars and guns is that it is illegal to ban guns in America.

You mean the law is illegal??

More or less. The proper term is unconstitutional. But yes.

We are free people here in America. You don't get to ban guns here, no matter how much you don't like it.

spendius wrote:

Your other remarks are kid's stuff.

In other words, you have no argument against any of the facts I presented, so you are trying to fog the issue with a bit of bluster.

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@oralloy,

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In other words, you have no argument against any of the facts I presented, so you are trying to fog the issue with a bit of bluster.

I was commenting about you thinking your assertions are facts which is kid's stuff as a fact.

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Once more this is a call to all those who are in favor of a new assault rifles ban to explain to all of us how such weapons are any more deadly then are others semi-auto rifles.

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@BillRM,

Unless you're going to war, you're not gonna need it. Guns that shoot 100's of rounds per minute, now why would you need that? Do you plan on flushing out all the wild life in the woods or something?

Why don't we all have Gatling gun turfs in our home? That will make everyone safer, right? Who needs 100 rounds per minute when you can have 100 rounds per second.

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@BillRM,

Let me ask you Bill. Is a gun that can shoot 100 rounds per minute more deadly than one that can shoot 10 rounds per minute?

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye

Quote:

As you might have seen IdiotBill is back, and also some of the St Pete gay playboys have threatened to attack my business (they claim to be looking or it) so I likely will soon be leaving A2K for a more morally upstanding community.

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@Atom Blitzer,

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Unless you're going to war, you're not gonna need it. Guns that shoot 100's of rounds per minute, now why would you need that? Do you plan on flushing out all the wild life in the woods or something?

How does assault rifles cycle faster then any other semi-auto rifles???!!!!?????

So address the issue how repeat how repeat how are rifles that are label assault weapons any more deadly then any other semi-auto rifle???????

Are you claiming that they cycle faster then other rifles is that your claim?

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@BillRM,

I am not a rifle person but a 100 rounds a minute you quoted seem high for any semi-auto rifle and from the below info I was right it is about half of that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_fire

Semi-Automatic rateThe semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm.

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@BillRM,

I see you have failed to answer my question Bill. I can understand why you are avoiding it. It shows the silliness of your arguments since you end up quickly contradicting yourself.

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@parados,

As I see almost none of your postings having you on ignore and only un-ignore you from time to time I have no clue of what you are talking about but from your past postings I do not think it likely to be worth while in any case.

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@BillRM,

So in other words Bill is more than willing to make an argument that a weapon that shoots one bullet per minute is just as deadly as one that shoots 100 bullets per minute.

Except of course when he is arguing for self defense. Then he is willing to argue that he needs a weapon that shoots more bullets per minute because it is more deadly.

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@BillRM,

After the ban was expired in 2004, assault rifles are commonly considered to be full auto rifles (selective fire in other words with an option to switch on or off).

For example, the fully auto uzi can theoretically deliver upwards of 500 rounds per minute. I think in some states, if you cough up enough money, and follow the proper procedure, you can get a fully auto uzi.

Any ways, your question in red should be answered with a "duh"

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@BillRM,

As far as even a very fast 100 rounds a minute being so deadly a simple gun power pipe bomb with a few hundreds ball bearings around it would be far far more deadly.

Second I am a handgun person but in rapid fire mode a model 1911 45 handgun get damn hot after firing just 7 rounds so the shooter trying to put so many rounds down range is likely why his rifle jam.

Bet he never got to fire that rifle in so rapid fire mode as all gun range safety officers frown on rapid fire at their range.

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@Atom Blitzer,

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After the ban was expired in 2004, assault rifles are commonly considered to be full auto rifles.

Maybe for some people but not for the majority. The definitions used in the assault ban are still pretty comprehensive. The AR-15 and AK-47 are considered assault rifles even in semi automatic mode.

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@BillRM,

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As far as even a very fast 100 rounds a minute being so deadly a simple gun power pipe bomb with a few hundreds ball bearings around it would be far far more deadly.

It depends. You would have to place it in an areas that has a number of persons near it. Then you would have to create the bomb to maximize direction of those projectiles. Simple surrounding the pipe bomb with them would make half of them completely ineffective at any distance since they would go down or up causing no damage to the surrounding area.

In the VA Tech shootings it would have been much less deadly because of the area covered.

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@parados,

Yes the once that you mentioned are considered "battle rifles."

So selective fire rifles and battle rifles are assault rifles.

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@Atom Blitzer,

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After the ban was expired in 2004, assault rifles are commonly considered to be full auto rifles

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BULLSHIT as the so call assault rifles ban never repeat never address class two type weapons IE fully auto weapons.

An the talk of reintroducing such a ban also have nothing to do with fully auto weapons.

Next federal law for being license to own a class two weapons cover all class two weapons and in no state can you own one without a class two license from the Federal government.

I had friends who have class two weapons and they needed to jump through all kinds of h0ops and at last check of the hundreds of thousands of class two weapons legally in private hands in the US only one had ever been used in an illegal manner.

You might wish to do some research so you are not posting nonsense.

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@Atom Blitzer,

Even in civilian models they are considered assault rifles.

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@BillRM,

I never said it addressed class two type weapons, it addressed some semi autos and shotguns. I never said to reintroduce that ban either. I just mentioned that assault rifles, or fully autos should be highly regulated, which in some states, it is.

What I'm saying the majority of "assault rifles" after that ban expired are considered to be the rifles with the selective fire option, and as parados mentioned, "battle rifles."

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