Mass Shooting At Denver Batman Movie Premiere

Aurora mayor says some movie theater shooting victims may not live
By Associated Press
Updated: Sunday, July 22, 10:39 AM

DENVER — The mayor of a Denver suburb that was the site of one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history says some victims are still terribly injured and may not live.

Aurora Mayor Steve Hogan says he and his staff visited victims in various hospitals on Saturday.

He told ABC’s “This Week” that some victims must still undergo major surgery.

The shooting at a screening of the new Batman movie early Friday killed 12 people and wounded 58 others. Aurora police said Saturday there has been no change from the 11 people Chief Dan Oates previously reported to be in critical condition.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/aurora-mayor-says-some-movie-theater-shooting-victims-may-not-live/2012/07/22/gJQAbmZG2W_story.html

What was your purpose in posting that if not to deride Christians?

You are ignoring the fact that the assault rifle that shooter was carrying is already banned in several states,

New Jersey law also places significant restrictions on where owners can carry their weapons.

We have a hodge-podge of laws relating to gun possession that vary considerably by state. And your alleged freedom to carry or posess any type of firearm you wish will depend on the state you are in.

What was your purpose in posting that if not to deride Christians?

Maybe it's time to reinstate the assault weapons ban.

We don't have to facillitate the commission of mass murders by keeping these weapons legally available.

To show how some people are viewing, and reacting to, this massacre

You are still ignoring the fact that the "right to bear arms" is already restricted in many states. The limitless "freedom" you are espousing in that regard, under the Second Amendment, does not exist--particularly involving assault weapons.

Second, while federal legislation receives the most media attention, state legislatures and city councils make many more decisions regarding your right to own and carry firearms....

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1. "Assault weapons" are prohibited in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York. Massachusetts: It is unlawful to sell or transfer handguns not on the Firearms Roster. The City of Boston has a separate "assault weapons" law. Some local jurisdictions in Ohio also ban "assault weapons." Hawaii prohibits "assault pistols." California bans "assault weapons", .50BMG caliber firearms, some .50 caliber ammunition and "unsafe handguns." Illinois: Chicago, Evanston, Oak Park, Morton Grove, Winnetka, Wilmette, and Highland Park prohibit handguns; some cities prohibit other kinds of firearms. Maryland prohibits "assault pistols"; the sale or manufacture of any handgun manufactured after Jan. 1, 1985, that does not appear on the Handgun Roster; and the sale of any handgun manufactured after January 1, 2003 that is not equipped with an "integrated mechanical safety device." Massachusetts: It is unlawful to sell, transfer or possess "any assault weapon or large capacity feeding device" [more than 10 rounds] that was not legally possessed on September 13, 1994 and the sale of handguns not on the Firearms Roster. The City of Boston has a separate "assault weapons" law. The District of Columbia bans "assault weapons," .50BMG caliber firearms and ammunition, "unsafe firearms," and "large capacity" (more than 10 rounds) ammunition feeding devices. Virginia prohibits "Street Sweeper" shotguns. (With respect to some of these laws and ordinances, individuals may retain prohibited firearms owned previously, with certain restrictions.) The sunset of the federal assault weapons ban does not affect the validity of state and local "assault weapons" bans.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx

So control of assault weapons is already in effect on local and state levels.

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What was your purpose in posting that if not to deride Christians?

To show how some people are viewing, and reacting to, this massacre.

Given what I have seen in the past from you this appears to be part of a pattern of a deep hostility that you seem to have towards religion and people of faith. As a deeply spiritual person myself I find your hostility to be unsavory

David is, as always. wrong.

The four dissenters on Heller, uninfluenced by the gun nut lobby, correctly read the 2nd amendment as being, as it clearly states, about the militia and only about the militia, which had far greater importance in 1792 than today, when it does not perform anything much like the duties envisioned for it then.

It is not talking about an individual right at all, and that collective interpretation was the majority view of the amendment until extreme right-wing activist groups like the NRA started talking their madness.

On the other hand, your friend BillRM ridicules and consistently attacks, people of faith, any faith, for believing in "fairy tales".

Police describe Colorado shooting as 'calculated and deliberate,' say it may have been planned for months
By Jana Winter
July 22, 2012

AURORA, Colo. – Police say they believe the suspect in a deadly shooting at a Colorado movie theater planned the attack with "calculation and deliberation," as they removed all explosives from his booby trapped apartment.

The suspect, James Holmes, is accused of going on a shooting rampage at the movie theater during Friday's midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises," killing 12 people dead and injuring 58. He was packing as many as 6,000 rounds of ammunition with the ability to shoot up to 50 a minute, police said.

Fox News has learned a possible second person of interest in the case is also being investigated, though sources caution authorities are not yet sure if the individual is necessarily tied to the crime.

In a statement to Fox News early Sunday, the Aurora Police Department confirmed an "associate" of Holmes had been interviewed in relation to the case, but at this time they do not believe he was involved.

The person who owns the home where the reported person of interest lives tells FoxNews.com investigators are looking for his tenant because they have interviewed all students from Holmes's program and his tenant is the only one who they haven't been able to reach. However, the landlord said he believes the tenant has been in Korea for "weeks."

Earlier Saturday, authorities eliminated all the explosives in Holmes' booby-trapped apartment. No officials were injured in the process.

Aurora police Sgt. Cassidee Carlson says the booby trap trip wire at his apartment was "meant to kill," the first person who opened the door to the apartment.

The Aurora police chief says the trap was meant specifically to kill a police officer who might have opened the door.

"We sure as hell are angry," Chief Dan Oates said about the trap being aimed at officers. Oates also apparently tried to head off a mental incompetence defense by saying Holmes was deliberate and calculating in receiving numerous commercial deliveries to his home and workplaces over the past four months.

"This is some serious stuff that our team is dealing with," Sgt. Carlson said. Witnesses have reported hearing two small booms during the disarming process.

Holmes' apartment was loaded with explosives and authorities say they will not know for sure what is inside until they enter and test results come back from an FBI lab. A robot was sent in to disarm and diffuse the major threats as well as remove evidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/20/police-work-to-id-victims-colorado-massacre-delay-probe-suspect-apartment/#ixzz21NFd5v00

No, it's more that you are obviously making up your own idea of your Constitutional right "to bear arms"--including assault weapons--and a good many people, and legislators, and courts, in other U.S. localities and states, do not share your fanciful view, particularly regarding assault weapons.

Benjamin Franklin would puke if he heard you misusing his words to justify your desire to own assault weapons.

Owning assault weapons is not "essential liberty"--except in the mind of the most crazed gun nut.

And that's why these weapons are banned in many places in the U.S..

MY GOD she told a truth in one of her postings

BillRM wrote:

In other word tell us a rational reason why these weapons should be ban.

They are already banned in many places--I posted the info for you direct from the NRA Web site.

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1. "Assault weapons" are prohibited in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York. Massachusetts: It is unlawful to sell or transfer handguns not on the Firearms Roster. The City of Boston has a separate "assault weapons" law. Some local jurisdictions in Ohio also ban "assault weapons." Hawaii prohibits "assault pistols." California bans "assault weapons", .50BMG caliber firearms, some .50 caliber ammunition and "unsafe handguns." Illinois: Chicago, Evanston, Oak Park, Morton Grove, Winnetka, Wilmette, and Highland Park prohibit handguns; some cities prohibit other kinds of firearms. Maryland prohibits "assault pistols"; the sale or manufacture of any handgun manufactured after Jan. 1, 1985, that does not appear on the Handgun Roster; and the sale of any handgun manufactured after January 1, 2003 that is not equipped with an "integrated mechanical safety device." Massachusetts: It is unlawful to sell, transfer or possess "any assault weapon or large capacity feeding device" [more than 10 rounds] that was not legally possessed on September 13, 1994 and the sale of handguns not on the Firearms Roster. The City of Boston has a separate "assault weapons" law. The District of Columbia bans "assault weapons," .50BMG caliber firearms and ammunition, "unsafe firearms," and "large capacity" (more than 10 rounds) ammunition feeding devices. Virginia prohibits "Street Sweeper" shotguns. (With respect to some of these laws and ordinances, individuals may retain prohibited firearms owned previously, with certain restrictions.) The sunset of the federal assault weapons ban does not affect the validity of state and local "assault weapons" bans.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/articles/2010/compendium-of-state-firearms-laws.aspx

It's your delusion that there is some sort of Constitutional "freedom" or "right" to possess these weapons.

I own 3 guns, 2 pistols and a rifle, do I qualify as a "gun nut" in your eyes?

BillRM wrote:

Once more what is the rational reasons for them being ban not that they are ban in some places now.

I don't have to answer that question because it's irrelevant

I am responding to your absurd assumption that you have a Constitutional right to possess such weapons.

That you have no such "right" is evident from the fact that these weapons are banned in many places, and there was a federal ban in place until it expired 2004.

If you are interested in why these weapons are banned, and why your thinking on this issue is inaccurate, you go check out the background on the legislation that imposes such bans.

BillRM wrote:

How are they more deadly then any other semi-auto rifle??????

The police responded to the Aurora theater shooting in 90 seconds--the gunman had already shot 70 people.