Mass Shooting At Denver Batman Movie Premiere

David maybe we should begin to think about setting up the modern versions of the pre-revolution war Committees of Correspondences in the darknet just in case?

Under current Florida law you can be ask/order to leave if a business become aware you are arm but that is it.

You do then need to leave at once as otherwise it become a case of arm trespassing but no sign have that power only a person.

Footnote given the numbers of CC carriers in florida businesses in any case had found it very very bad business to be unfriendly to arm citizens.

An the theater I go to do not have such a sign and I would after seeing the movie would tell them that they had lost my business if such a sign would appear.

That's true.

When we see US golf tournaments and NFL games are half the spectators packing?

he undoubtedly fantasized this scenario, over and over, prior to it's happening; and he may have believed that in the moment he wouldn't want to remain alive. If this were the case, he may simply have pussed out.

I imagine there will be a change in security procedures at most theaters now.

Gun control is victim disarmament.





David

If thay mimic airports, it may have a negative effect on attendance.

I recall a number of moviegoers reporting that they started fleeing when they clearly saw his shotgun. Seems some people saw him clearly.

"A" knows better than to fire unless he sees the guy clearly, and does not fire if he does not know for sure what is happening.





"B" also knows better than to fire without knowing what he is firing at.





"C" also knows better than to fire without knowing what he is firing at.

Now, regarding the problem of defending against armor, that I haven't solved yet (still thinking about it though). But this notion of people shooting irresponsibly, nah. Won't be a problem.





Not only would that not work, it would be a grave violation of our Constitutional rights. You will never have the votes to impose such a thing on the American people. And if you did, the Supreme Court would overturn it.

Wrong. First, if you really want to claim that the Second Amendment only applies to militias, you have to actually have a militia for the right to apply to.

Second, the Second Amendment does not apply "only" to the militia. Non-militia-members have the right to carry handguns in public for self defense.





No. The only thing they really achieve is the loss of freedom.

Those countries did not have a Constitution to guard their liberty, or active groups dedicated to preserving their liberty.

Your anti-freedom agenda will never see the light of day here in the land of the free.

*I* can perceive some issues.

First, the NRA will not allow you to pass such a law, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Second, the US Supreme Court will strike down such a law, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Gun availability has little impact on the murder rate.

But even if it did, that would be too bad. We have the right to carry guns for self defense, period.

For the most part you do need to travel and therefore need to put up with whatever security nonsense they throw at you, however I could live the rest of my life in happiness without spending another dime to see a movie.

Somehow I do not think that this is my feelings alone.

So if the theaters go nuts on security in order to make the movie goers feel secure they are going to be cutting their own throats.

Third comment any great increase in security will also raise the tickets prices by a not small amount reducing their customers base even more,

"Comparing to other countries" shows that gun availability has little impact on homicide rates.

"Insane pro-chaos gun laws"? You mean the Brady Bill?

Violating American freedom will not change the murder rate.

Now that's interesting. But I don't know that an empty theater seat would be able to properly secure a long gun.

If it did work, it would work just as well for guns that did not have the harmless cosmetic features that make a gun an assault weapon.

Wow. The freak who wrote that piece calls for a blatant violation of our Constitutional rights, and then says that our rights are not in jeopardy.

Freedom haters really are something else.






Better than the other freak. At least this one did not call for violating our rights, and then lie about it in the same breath.

The focus on harmless cosmetic features (that would be illegal to ban in any case) is pretty silly.

If 100 bullets are fired without reloading from a gun with a pistol grip and a flash suppressor, and another 100 bullets are fired without reloading from a gun without a pistol grip and a flash suppressor, there is no difference between the two sets of bullets.

And yes, the government is not allowed to violate someone's Constitutional rights just because their name is on a watch list.

Just a feeling base on human nature but my bet would be that anyone willing to spend an fairly outrageous amount of money for a cheap gun could be armed within hours of reaching the UK for example.

Gun control is great for keeping guns out of law abiding citizens hands and little else.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade
By James Slack
UPDATED: 03:42 EST, 27 October 2009
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Gun Control's Twisted Outcome
Restricting firearms has helped make England more crime-ridden than the U.S.
Joyce Lee Malcolm from the November 2002 issue



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Gun crime has increased five-fold in some parts of the UK
Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.
The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.
In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.
In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.
The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place.
Last week, police in London revealed they had begun carrying out armed patrols on some streets.
The move means officers armed with sub-machine guns are engaged in routine policing for the first time.

Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Grayling, said last night: 'In areas dominated by gang culture, we're now seeing guns used to settle scores between rivals as well as turf wars between rival drug dealers.
'We need to redouble our efforts to deal with the challenge.'
He added: 'These figures are all the more alarming given that it is only a week since the Metropolitan Police said it was increasing regular armed patrols in some areas of the capital'.


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The gun crime figures, which were obtained by the Tories from official Parliamentary answers, do not include air weapons.
But they provide the first regional breakdown of the increasing use of firearms.
Lancashire suffered the single largest rise in gun crime, with recorded offences increasing from 50 in 1998/99 to 349 in 2007/08, an increase of 598 per cent.


Armed: Officers engaged in routine policing are carrying sub-machine guns for the first time
Only four police forces - Cleveland-Humberside, Cambridgeshire and Sussex - recorded falls in gun crime.
The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .
The figures follow a warning by Mr Grayling that U.S.-style gang culture has reached some parts of the UK.

In August, he made a controversial speech warning that a collapse of 'civilised life' had allowed a brutal drug and gun crime culture - like that of the U.S. TV show The Wire - to flourish in Britain.
The hit TV series tracks the nightmare of gangs and organised crime in inner city West Baltimore and the futile efforts of police to deal with them.

The Met's decision to employ armed officers on the streets has attracted criticism.
But the force, which has already begun the scheme, insists that the unprecedented tactic is a proportionate and temporary response to prevent armed gangs from controlling estates.


Trident poster campaign warning of dangers of young women and girls storing and transporting guns for others
Last month, police warned that teenage girls were now being dragged into the gun culture by hiding weapons for their boyfriends.
Police are targeting girls between 15 and 19 with an advertising blitz warning them that they can expect a five-year prison sentence if they are caught.
The number of women charged with firearms offences in London has increased six-fold in the past year - 12 have been charged since January.
Seven of them were teenagers, including a 16-year-old arrested after a 9mm Browning self-loading pistol was found in her bedroom.

http://reason.com/archives/2002/11/01/gun-controls-twisted-outcome/singlepage

On a June evening two years ago, Dan Rather made many stiff British upper lips quiver by reporting that England had a crime problem and that, apart from murder, "theirs is worse than ours." The response was swift and sharp. "Have a Nice Daydream," The Mirror, a London daily, shot back, reporting: "Britain reacted with fury and disbelief last night to claims by American newsmen that crime and violence are worse here than in the US." But sandwiched between the article's battery of official denials -- "totally misleading," "a huge over-simplification," "astounding and outrageous" -- and a compilation of lurid crimes from "the wild west culture on the other side of the Atlantic where every other car is carrying a gun," The Mirror conceded that the CBS anchorman was correct. Except for murder and rape, it admitted, "Britain has overtaken the US for all major crimes."...