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The British Crown is a useless anachronism.

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 04:49 am
@Thomas,
Quote:
It's a pity that the Rebels won against the Loyalists in Unfortunate Incident of 1776.

Actually, if it werent for the French and several bands of hillwilliams, wed be saying "hut up n deal" over really bad food.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:27 am
@Setanta,
Set:
Relax. I was only asking if you wanted to be more specific about what the benefits might be.

You don't want to be more specific, so just say so.

I'm good with that.

Joe(This is a completely unimportant thread)Nation
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:29 am
@izzythepush,
But that means we are all stuck with them.

Ah, well.
Joe(Be well)Nation
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:31 am
@Joe Nation,
I wonder how Joe Nation
thinks HE'S "stuck with them."

Maybe he 's going there for a visit.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:41 am
@Joe Nation,
How much more specific could i have been? I think you're just being lazy, and didn't bother to go back to read my post.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:50 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Actually, if it werent for the French and several bands of hillwilliams, wed be saying "hut up n deal" over really bad food.


Says the man from the country that gave us aerosol cheese.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 05:53 am
@Joe Nation,
You're not stuck with anything. If you don't like the Royals, stop hanging around with those who effuse about them constantly.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 06:01 am
@izzythepush,
So you are the guys who eat that crap?

Seeee?

I did love the Indian food in Britain and Irelnd. They were smart enough to invade countries with good cuisines. (cept for Canada, I dont know what was up there)
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 07:36 am
@Setanta,
I did re-read your post to see if I missed anything.
Quote:
It's their money, if they want to throw down that hole, how is that any business of yours? Do you feel the same way about Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland and Spain? How about Nepal and Thailand?

Monarchs are the source of all honors in monarchical societies, and they are an unchaning head of state, heads of state who are, at least ostensibly, above partisan politics. They serve useful purposes in those societies which have them and want them.

Okay.
Monarchs are the source of all honors. Check.
Unchanging heads of State, above politics. Check and check.
They serve useful purposes. Like what?

In my first post I said:

Quote:
Anyway, let's talk.
Convince me that the Royals have some beneficial utility.

Joe(I'll pour some tea.)Nation


So far I'm unconvinced, but not for lack of trying on the part of many including yourself.

I called the Queen this morning: you, Setanta, by Royal decree, are relieved from answering any further what I think is a fun question to ask and think about.

Cheers,

Joe(You'll get the paperwork in the mail.)Nation


Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 07:51 am
@Joe Nation,
It doesn't matter is you said beneficial, i didn't. You must be really thick when it comes to this subject. Their useful purposes are those i listed--the source of honors, and the non-partisan head of state. I don't understand why you keep asking me to state what i stated at the outset. You may not value those functions, but they are useful nonetheless. People who live in monarchies willingly find them useful for those purposes.

Now, since Fil "I'm nearly incoherent in English but that doesn't stop me" claimed first that this is a tautology (which is nonsense because if it were i'd not have needed to state it) and then that it's obvious, i'll explain what i mean about people who are happy to live in monarchies. Syria has been, for at least two generations, a monarchy. No matter what the Assads have called themselves, they have been functional autocrats. That's a rule by one person, a monarchy. I don't think it's unreasonable to say the Syrians arean't happy about that. Mallomar Gotdaffy was, in the same sense, a monarch. The people of Libya don't seem have been, most of them, too happy about that. Any of the kleptocracies which have been ruled by a single individual for decades are functional monarchies. The evidence at least appears to be that people who live in kleptocracies aren't happy about it.

But many people in the monarchies of Europe seem to be content with having these figureheads as heads of state. To that extent, they serve a useful purpose. Whether or not you like the idea.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:23 am
@farmerman,
We don't import any type of cheese from America. No country in their right mind would.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:30 am
@izzythepush,
I think you should look again Vt and Wisonsin cheddrs are used by Mickey Dee's , also, Ive had daffenois made in US in restaurants in Edinburgh
ANYWAY, I was not even aware that UK had anything that approximated a "cuisine" > If it werent your penchant for colonialism youd have no flavors at all.

In MAnchester once , i asked for some condiments for a meal and I was directed to my salt shaker
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:33 am
@farmerman,
McD's make a big play about how they use local ingredients. Never heard of daffenois. A lot of good things have come out of America, but cheese isn't one of them.

Are you citing McDs as proof of fine American cuisine?
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:36 am
Some of the finest cheeses anywhere, both from cows' milk and goats' milk, are made in Upstate New York. Those made by the monastic orders are particularly prized. Why should anyone care what the opinion of an ignorant Enblishman on the subject is?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:38 am
@izzythepush,
That's a shame. There are some superb cheeses being made in the U.S.

http://www.cheese-exchange.com/american_originals/caso-bolo-mellage

Similarly, people underestimate the exciting things happening in restaurant kitchens in England for the past 15 - 20 years. Of course, most of us can't afford those meals, but we can be inspired by what we read about them.

I dream of this one

http://www.theworlds50best.com/awards/1-50-winners/Dinner/



Gotta appreciate the best that everyone has to offer. I wouldn't want to miss out on a good meal because it came from the wrong country.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:43 am
@Setanta,
Not so ignorant that I can't spell Englishman.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:45 am
@izzythepush,
The finest cheddar is aged in caves in..................... Cheddar!
http://www.infobritain.co.uk/Cheddar_Gorge_Reflecting_Pool.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:51 am
Cheeses and cheese spreads made in the Russian Orthodox monestary and convent in New Skete, New York.

This is the blurb for an event in New York City to taste liqueurs and cheeses made in the monestaries.

Trappist monks all over the world are famous for their cheeses, especially their hard cheeses. The Trappists of New York and Kentucky are no different than their fellow monks in other countries. The Abbey of Our Lady of Gethsemani in Nelson County, Kentucky is famous for its cheeses, fruitcakes and Bourbon fudge.

In addition to the monastic orders, the entire state of Wisconsin makes wonderful cheeses, and is especially noted for its aged cheddars.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 08:51 am
@izzythepush,
Ah yes, a typographical error is proof positive of your thesis. At least i'm sure you think so.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2012 09:28 am
An interesting article of export opportunities for American cheese producers.
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