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Protests Around The World

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 09:30 am
I hope the EU citizens are successful in avoiding the utter ruin of their soil and vegetable products by winning against pesticide use.

Our country is suffering terribly due to losing this battle.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 09:39 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I hope the EU citizens are successful in avoiding the utter ruin of their soil and vegetable products by winning against pesticide use.
So now you oppose the farmers and their protests. Aha.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 10:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Are the farmers pro-pesticide, Walter?

And, not to quibble of course, but I know how deeply you attempt to be right. Your comment
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When asked whether it was true that the Kremlin had not received a single request from Western media for a meeting with the Russian head of state in the last two years, Peskov contradicted Carlson's statements.

was premised on a faulty statement.

Carlson did not say ‘that the Kremlin had not received a single request from Western media for a meeting with the Russian head of state,’ but that Western media ‘hasn’t bothered to interview’ Putin.

Quite a glaring difference, wouldn’t you say?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 11:12 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Are the farmers pro-pesticide, Walter?
Not all, I hope.

But, well, you reported you posted about the demonstrations yourself: in recent weeks, farmers across Europe have been demonstrating - sometimes violently - against the EU rules (here especially: environmental protection law against high pesticide use), among other things.

Around four months before the EU elections, the EU-commission is taking a further step towards farmers who feel disproportionately pressurised by EU environmental regulations.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 11:16 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Carlson did not say ‘that the Kremlin had not received a single request from Western media for a meeting with the Russian head of state,’ but that Western media ‘hasn’t bothered to interview’ Putin.

Quite a glaring difference, wouldn’t you say?
No, not all.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 11:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Obv, I’m shocked by your response.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 11:50 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Everything’s not so easily separated into black & white, as you know.

I used to visualize you when we talk as the pictures I’ve seen of you.
Now, it’s a mix of your baby pic with a head full of blond curls, aged up to teens wearing lederhosen, hiding behind a door giggling because you’ve been naughty and you think you’ve gotten away with it.

You never disappoint.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2024 11:52 am
@Lash,
Some regulations are unnecessarily damaging to farmers; some are useful.
I hope the people can wrangle and protest and gain control over choosing which are which.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 10 Feb, 2024 06:56 am
Really good BBC podcast here:

Do green policies and farmers have to clash?

Europe has been swept by a wave of protests by farmers, many of whom blame environmental policies for increasing their hardship. In Germany, farmers are angry about the phasing out of tax breaks on agricultural diesel. A policy aimed at reducing pesticide use was one of many grievances fuelling demonstrations in France, Belgium and the Netherlands - prompting the EU to backtrack on the policy. But farmers are worried about more than just pesticide use. From measures to increase biodiversity and soil quality to increased competition from cheap imports, the agricultural sector across Europe - and the world - is feeling the strain. So, can farmers and the environment both prosper? If so, which policies will help encourage a green transition and who will pay for it?
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2024 06:17 am
Revealed: The Climate Denial Network Behind ‘Classic Astroturf’ Farmers’ Campaign

Producers say ‘No Farmers, No Food’ is a populist initiative that serves to “whip up indignation and anger”.

https://www.desmog.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/2-cropped.jpeg.webp

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A network of climate science deniers has been accused of “hijacking” rural concerns over a new social media campaign “to save the farming industry”.

‘No Farmers, No Food’ has gained over 50,000 followers on X in the fortnight since its launch, which was framed as a response to the widespread farmers’ protests sweeping across Europe.

The campaign, which started in the UK, has rapidly won support from a number of international pundits, from Canadian climate science denier Jordan Peterson, to Fox News contributor and host Tomi Lahren, who has called climate change a “hoax”. Populist politicians in the UK and elsewhere have also declared their support.

Conspiracy theorists have jumped to support the social media account, which has boosted false claims about people being forced by the World Economic Forum to “eat bugs”.

The campaign has expressed scepticism around climate targets, claiming that “Farming is being sacrificed on the altar of net zero.”

Sporting a distinctive black and yellow tractor logo, the campaign’s hashtag trended on X a week after its launch on 23 January. Its founder James Melville told DeSmog that the campaign, which claims to represent the voices of farmers, plans to target national and local legislation on issues like pricing and food security as well as “aspects of net zero”.

James Melville is a PR consultant who has appeared as an anti-lockdown campaigner on right-wing broadcaster TalkTV and a farming commentator on GB News. A former journalist who grew up on a livestock and arable farm, he said he started the campaign to put “pressure on governments to help farmers … and shape the messages that will build public support”.

“I think it’s time for a national debate on climate and net zero,” Melville told DeSmog. The campaign is due to launch a new mission statement in the coming days.

Scientific consensus on human-caused climate change is equivalent to that on evolution.

The UK’s legally binding target to cut greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050 is part of an international effort to limit global warming to 1.5 C. Food production accounts for around a quarter of global emissions.

But while Melville’s campaign claims to speak for farmers, arable and livestock farmer Joe Stanley says the initiative does not represent his industry.

“There is massive discontent in the farming community,” he said. “But this does not seem to be a farmer-generated movement.”

“Populism whips up indignation and anger,” Stanley added. “That is what ‘No Farmers, No Food’ is doing, clearly with the hope of creating a wider movement as we’ve seen in Ireland and Holland.”

Journalist Peter Geoghegan, author of ‘Democracy for Sale: Dark Money and Dirty Politics’, said that ‘No Farmers, No Food’ had “all the hallmarks of a classic astroturf campaign” – a supposedly ‘grassroots’ campaign that provides a front for political or commercial interests.

“As we can see here you don’t need any grassroots support to be able to push an agenda straight into the media and the political system,” he said.

James Melville denied that the campaign was a front for political interests, adding that ‘No Farmers, No Food’ was “non-partisan”. “I welcome all sides of the debate,” he said.

‘Ride the Wave of Discontent’


Farmers protesting in Europe have raised a wide range of issues – including volatile prices, cuts to farm subsidies and threats from cheap imports, as well as concerns about climate and environmental regulations.

As tractors blockade motorways and cities in Ireland, Belgium, Romania, France, Germany, Lithuania, Greece, Poland and the Netherlands, critics fear that far-right and populist groups are hijacking issues to galvanise support for their own agendas.

A number of influential right-wing pundits have backed the ‘No Food, No Farmers’ campaign – among them multiple presenters from British broadcaster GB News, which frequently attacks climate science and policies. A 2023 DeSmog investigation found that one in three GB News hosts spread climate denial on air.

In an interview with the channel last month about the farmer protests in Germany, James Melville told presenter Neil Oliver: “Governments are implementing draconian net zero measures, it’s almost impossible for farmers to make some sort of profit.”

Oliver, who is known for spreading conspiracy theories, has also shared the campaign graphic with his almost 400,000 followers, writing: “No farmers, no food. That’s a fact. Full support.”

The presenter last year called “the green agenda … a hellish potpourri of policies guaranteed to condemn hundreds of millions to death”.

A number of other GB News presenters, including Bev Turner and Tonia Buxton, have also tweeted their support for the campaign. Turner in 2022 warned of “green issue propaganda” being used to curb people’s freedoms.

GB News is co-owned by British hedge fund millionaire Paul Marshall, who has £1.8 billion invested in fossil fuels through his firm Marshall Wace. The outlet’s other major shareholder is Dubai-based investment firm Legatum Group, which backs a group called the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship that has several prominent climate deniers on its board, including Jordan Peterson.

The campaign has also been covered by Farming Today on BBC Radio 4, which interviewed Melville, as well as a farmer who was critical of the campaign.

Melville told DeSmog that he could not “control the individuals who will align themselves to this campaign” but aimed to appeal to those across the political spectrum.

The campaign was not currently funded, he said, and was consulting with farmers. He declined to name the individuals involved.

Farmer Joe Stanley told DeSmog that farmers had not been “appropriately supported” to make a just transition.

“The vast majority do believe in climate change and that farming can deliver on sustainable, nature-friendly food,” he said.

“The political extreme always thinks they can ride the wave of discontent for their own interest,” he added. “I do not want to see support for the industry get degraded as it is hijacked by individuals who do not have farmers’ interests at heart.”

No farmers, no food. That's a fact. Full support. https://t.co/hhPrefatzy
— Neil Oliver (@thecoastguy) January 27, 2024


Campaign Aims

‘No Farmers, No Food’ has so far revealed few details about its preferred tactics or long-term aims. Asked whether it was looking to emulate Europe’s protests, Melville told DeSmog that it was “not the job” of ‘No Farmers, No Food’ to call for widespread demonstrations.

While it is yet to finalise a mission statement or manifesto, Melville said that key issues would likely include subsidies for farmers, low produce prices and “layers of bureaucracy, legislation, red tape on aspects of net zero”.

‘No Farmers, No Food’ is named after a hashtag that has been widely used to support protests in Germany, as well as previous demonstrations in Canada, India and the Netherlands.

In an interview on TNT Radio, Melville said the campaign would “call out some of the NGO agendas”. He told DeSmog that he believed “corporate elites, senior figures in NGOs, and the government are not in keeping with the concerns of the public.”

The campaign regularly features videos from celebrity farmer and YouTuber Gareth Wyn Jones, who has almost two million subscribers on his YouTube channel and is a regular guest on GB News.

Wyn Jones has featured on BBC programmes including Countryfile and The Family Farm and has criticised environmentalists. In an interview on GB News, he warned that European protests could spread to the UK.

It also regularly shares videos of former Top Gear presenter and farmer Jeremy Clarkson about difficulties in the industry.

‘No Farmers, No Food’ has also received backing from the anti-lockdown campaign group #together, which is currently running a petition against net zero and has campaigned against the expansion of London’s ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ). Melville sits on the Together cabinet.

UK Amplifiers


As right-wing parties in Europe scramble to align themselves with the farmer protests, ‘No Farmers, No Food’ has gained backing from a number of politicians from populist parties in the UK.

So far, UK producers have not joined the wave of farmers protests, but trade magazine Farmers Weekly reported in early February that a number of groups are considering demonstrating.

In early February, Andrew Bridgen, an independent MP who was affiliated to the Reclaim Party until December after being suspended from the Conservatives in January 2023, repeated the campaign hashtag in Parliament. He told MPs, “‘No Farmers, No Food’ is being translated and understood in many languages.”

“Can we have an urgent debate in government time on UK farming, UK food production and UK food security, before our own farmers start taking direct action?” he said.

Posting on X in support of the campaign, Bridgen shared a video arguing that “climate change is a power grab” to control the food supply and force lab grown food on people.

Reform UK’s candidate for London mayor Howard Cox has publicly denied climate science, saying in November: “It is arrogant to think that we, as human beings, can make any difference to this planet.” He wrote on X that he was campaigning with the group, adding, “It’s time [for] … all the #netzero BS be replaced with common sense pragmatic solutions to protecting our vital food supply chain.”

In an emailed statement, Cox told DeSmog he supported the campaign in his capacity as director of FairFuelUK “because of the high cost of vehicle fuel here in the UK farmers have to pay”. The group lobbies to cut fuel duty and has frequently cast doubt on the health impacts of air pollution.

“This campaign has NO connection with the Reform UK Party,” Cox added.

The initiative has also been amplified online by Lois Perry, leader of the climate science denial group CAR26. Perry recently announced that she would be running for leader of UKIP.

Gareth Wyn Jones, Lois Perry, Andrew Bridgen, Jordan Peterson, Neil Oliver, Bev Turner and Tonia Buxton did not respond to requests for comment. GB News also did not respond.

Pushing Conspiracy Theories

‘No Farmers, No Food’ has also promoted a conspiracy theory about climate policies as a cover for removing people’s freedoms.

On 28 January, ‘No Farmers, No Food’ shared a post from former LBC host Maajid Nawaz, who has half a million followers on X, stating “Farmers stand between us and WEF’s desire for us to “EAT BUGS, own nothing and be happy.”

The post appears to refer to a conspiracy theory known as the ‘Great Reset’ which suggests that the World Economic Forum (WEF) is using a non-existent climate crisis to control world food supplies, with the aim of imposing a global socialist government.

As well as being a well-known protest hashtag, ‘No Farmers, No Food’ was the title of a 2023 film about the conspiracy theory.

On his personal account, Melville shared a post in support of his campaign from Monica Crowley, assistant secretary for public affairs for the U.S. Department of the Treasury under Donald Trump, which stated, “Farmers across Europe are mass protesting the globalists trying to crush them. Between Bill Gates, the CCP & the WEF, we’re going to have no private farmland left. They want you eating bugs.”

Conspiracy theorists claim that Gates and the WEF are using climate regulations on farms to enable large-scale land grabs.

Misinformation and conspiracy theories have already had a significant impact in Europe, plaguing debates in the Netherlands over recent years about how to reduce illegal levels of nitrate pollution.

“I want the public to be informed by all sides of the debate,” Melville told DeSmog. “Sometimes what’s considered a conspiracy theory, six months down the track actually becomes an [actual political] agenda.”

Farmer Joe Stanley told DeSmog that traction for the conspiracy theories among farmers were due to a high level of concern felt by people in the industry.

“Not enough is being done to address the farmers’ grievances if farmers are starting to think that these are sensible or reasonable arguments to take up,” he said.

desmog
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2024 06:48 am
@hightor,
This article is a fantastic example of how the powers that be (I’m going to have to settle on an identifying moniker for these people) use the labels they’ve fashioned through their scapegoating propaganda to completely avoid the substance of a problem they’ve created for the people—and turn it into some accusation against the people.

The legitimate concerns are turned into gossip, a conspiracy. And they now have the reason to put down the people’s legitimate complaint because something something science deniers conspiracy theorists.

No real confrontation of the inciting incident and its effect on the people.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2024 07:33 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
The legitimate concerns are turned into gossip, a conspiracy. And they now have the reason to put down the people’s legitimate complaint because something something science deniers conspiracy theorists.

No real confrontation of the inciting incident and its effect on the people.
Well, that the government is trying to do trade deals with countries producing far cheaper food than UK produced and with little or no standards, the SFI (Sustainable Farming Incentive), and the new Brexit checks are certainly something to worry for British farmers.

The farmers said that there will be further EU-style blockades following the tractor protest at Dover against low supermarket prices and cheap food imports from post-Brexit trade deals.
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Brexit supporters argue that reduced imports can only be good news for UK farmers because they will see increased demand for their products. However, a combination of ill-thought-out government farm subsidies and brutal price gouging by supermarkets desperate to tackle food price inflation, is ­quietly destroying the UK’s farming sector. According to Liz Webster, a Cotswold farmer and founder of the campaign group Save British Farming, EU farmers have been offering lower prices than those in the UK because they’ve had fewer labour issues and continue to get EU subsidies. “UK pig farmers have been particularly crushed on price over the past three years by supermarkets and are simply quitting the business.”

The figures bear this out. Last year, UK pork production was down 11%. The same applies to the apple business. James Smith of Loddington Farm in Kent used to supply 2,000 tonnes to the supermarkets. He now produces 400 tonnes a year, little of which goes to super­markets. “The retailers will not pay us a profitable price for the product,” he says. “It’s no longer worth growing a crop.”
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Meanwhile, the Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI), a programme of grants for environmental actions on farms phased in by Defra since 2021, has been accused of undermining farming. “It’s not about making food production more sustainable,” one farmer says. “It’s about taking land out of food production to realise environmental goals.” Wheat farmers are now at risk of losing at least £450 per hectare, whereas under SFI they can be paid a guaranteed £453 per hectare to plant wildflowers.

“Many farmers are responding to the SFI by reducing food production,” says Webster. She argues that it’s the product of a chronic failure of government policy. “Because we’ve done so well historically importing food, production has never been prioritised,” she says. “We’re now in a really serious situation. Other countries have many far less complicated places to trade with, where they’ll get a good price, while our food production is collapsing.” Many in the sector believe the UK’s overall food self-sufficiency has slipped well below the 61% it was measured at in 2022.
The Guardian
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2024 08:05 am
@Lash,
Did you listen to the podcast I recommended above?

People are aware of the challenges faced by farmers. People are also aware of the problems caused by agricultural activity and farming practices. We can't address climate change if everybody who has a chip in the pollution game is going to cry foul and refuse to change. Yes, regulators have to do a better job when they issue new rules – communication and compensation – but the public has to understand that we're not going to solve this global problem without undergoing a certain amount of social pain. We are trying to turn back a juggernaut which has been developing over three hundred years and is now increasing in momentum. We don't have three hundred years to respond. Exercising "free speech" with the sole purpose of misleading people to protect corporate profits and exploiting sentiment to protect destructive agricultural practices while the earth cooks is not an example of legitimate complaint. It's more like bait and switch.

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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2024 06:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
One good thing happening in the world that gives hope--at least to me.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 29 Feb, 2024 05:07 am
Italy Uncovers Russian Plot to Disrupt EU with Protests

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Amidst recent farmer rallies, Rome’s intelligence identified pro-Kremlin social media attempts to falsely connect them to sanctions on Russia. “It’s a clumsy attempt”, says Undersecretary Mantovano during the presentation of the 2023 Security Intelligence Policy Report

During recent days, amidst protests by Italian farmers, the Italian intelligence community has been monitoring pro-Russian social media channels attempting to promote the unsubstantiated idea that the protests are a result of the economic sanctions imposed on Russia.

• “It’s a clumsy attempt, but it gives you an idea of the challenge,” said Undersecretary Alfredo Mantovano, who also oversees intelligence matters, during the presentation of the 2023 Security Intelligence Policy Report.
• A few weeks ago, EUvsDisinfo, the European Union counter-disinformation flagship project, had already highlighted how the farmers’ protests across Europe were being exploited by the Kremlin’s propaganda apparatus in an attempt to destabilize the Union. The aim is to exacerbate the perception of divisions between the people and what Moscow refers to as the “Brussels elites,” who are seen as colluding with Kyiv to destroy the EU agricultural market.

Undersecretary Mantovano commented that the task of intelligence “is not, and will never be, to control the content and ideas published online.”

• Instead, intelligence focuses on “verifying the authenticity and traceability of information online, as well as the authenticity of social media profiles and the dynamics of content creation without any distortion by actors who aim to destabilize information and democratic processes. In this light, I hope that during the campaign for the [European] elections, we will never lose sight of the deep sense of common belonging to our nation.”

Italian intelligence assesses that every attempt by Russian President Vladimir Putin to signal the start of possible negotiations has been met with an explicit unwillingness to offer any concessions.

• This highlights how any pause in the fighting would only be aimed at reconstituting Russian forces to launch further attacks in the future, as stated in the report.

A major novelty in the document presented today is the unprecedented attention given to China.

• With the Meloni government’s decision not to renew the memorandum of understanding on the Belt and Road Initiative, the document addresses the challenge posed by China in a new way, within the context of a new globalization marked by competition.
• The current international context requires de-risking policies to limit strategic dependencies and avoid “coercive measures” enacted by actors such as China, explained Elisabetta Belloni, Director of Italy’s intelligence community (DIS).

https://decode39.com/8817/italy-uncovers-russian-plot-to-disrupt-eu-with-protests/[i]decode39[/i]
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