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Help with PC

 
 
Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 12:43 pm
Not sure whether the result of last Mac update or it’s result of inadvertent keystroke but (1) the url or add. (very handy accouterment to copy-paste as link, avoiding necessity to transmit entire page) formerly appearing at the top is missing

(2) Also, not so critical but annoying is a big elongated red dot in the upper right corner of the Mail icon, present all the time even when Mailbox empty

(3) Even less critical but equally annoying is missing update icon (small circle with arrowhead); though incidentally if you’re troubled with the same lack, you can right-click anywhere and you’ll get a box with “Reload Page”

Thanks guys
 
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:14 pm
@dalehileman,
The title thread should read Help with MAC OS. MAC's are not PC's.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:15 pm
@Baldimo,
Actually, they are PCs.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:20 pm
@DrewDad,
Technically they are all personal computers. For the longest time though, Apple computers have been called, "Macs", and all the others, p.c.s.
Since the operating systems are so different, between the Mac and the others, I think that Baldimo is right about making the differentiation.

DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:27 pm
@Phoenix32890,
It's a marketing term, though, not a technical one.

My company deals with many kinds of PCs. Macs, Windows, Linux, etc.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:33 pm
@dalehileman,
What operating system are you using? I have Lion. In Mail, I get a red dot only when there is new mail. It has the number of the new mailings, inside a round red dot.

The update icon is in the same line as the url, right after, "reader". You must have inadvertently knocked it off, as I sometimes do. I always play around with it, and get the line back, although I could not explain how I do it.

To get to the "reload page", I hit the trackpad with two fingers.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 05:06 pm
@DrewDad,
PC's are all based off the x86 architecture. MAC's are not. Once upon a time it was RISC vs CISC. Apple was using RISC (reduced instruction set computers) and the IBM clones were all using CISC (complex instruction set computers). MAC's are not PC's.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 05:38 pm
@Baldimo,
Nope.

"PC" stands for personal computer.

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A personal computer (PC) is any general-purpose computer whose size, capabilities, and original sales price make it useful for individuals, and which is intended to be operated directly by an end-user with no intervening computer operator.

...

Since the early 1990s, Microsoft software and Intel hardware have dominated much of the personal computer market, first with MS-DOS and then with the Wintel platform. Popular alternatives to Microsoft's Windows operating systems include Apple's Mac OS X and open-source Linux-based operating systems such as Ubuntu.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 05:47 pm
@Baldimo,
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The title thread should read Help with MAC OS. MAC's are not PC's.
Thanks Bal but I had been led to believe that the distinction had evaporated years ago. Still I suppose I ought to not assume everyone is on the same wavelength
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 05:57 pm
@Phoenix32890,
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What operating system are you using?
I’ll ask my No. 1 Son and get back to you on that

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In Mail, I get a red dot only when there is new mail. It has the number of the new mailings, inside a round red dot.
Mine’s supposed to be a round red dot too although I just realized my elongated symbol does include a very tiny number, 2752 or ZTSZ though still the inbox is empty

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The update icon is in the same line as the url, right after, "reader".
Yes thanks Nix that
That's how I remember it too but they’re both missing

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You must have inadvertently knocked it off, as I sometimes do. I always play around with it, and get the line back, although I could not explain how I do it.
Thanks again Nix, hilarious. But I’m afraid that very sort of procedure was what got me into so much trouble in the first place

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To get to the "reload page", I hit the trackpad with two fingers.
Don't know what a trackpad is but my system requires only one digit applied to the right mousekey
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 05:31 am
@dalehileman,
FYI


http://www.apple.com/ca/magictrackpad/
parados
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 06:00 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

PC's are all based off the x86 architecture. MAC's are not.


Macs have been using x86 chips by intel since 2006 when they stopped using the PowerPC chips.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_mini
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 06:03 am
@dalehileman,
Which software are you using for internet and mail?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 08:19 am
@Baldimo,
PC stand for personal computers and is not tied into any OS or hardware.

Yes by some common meanings it can be limited to the decendants of the old IBM machine but that is not the proper meaning of the term in my opinion.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 09:28 am
@Phoenix32890,
Thanks Nix for that link, it’s not every day we learn a new term
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 09:29 am
@BillRM,
So it does go back to marketing. For instance, there are two magazines, P.C. World, and Mac World. You will get stories and reviews concerning Apple computers on MacWorld, and stories and reviews on Windows computers at P.C. World.

A good reason that there are two separate magazines is because what is relevant to one operating system, may not have any pertinence to the other.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 10:15 am
@Phoenix32890,
The term PC date back to before either the IBM PC or the MAC came into existence.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 12:05 pm
@BillRM,
Interesting, fascinating, guys and thanks for the support, but getting back to the OP………...
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 01:15 pm
@dalehileman,
OK- I think I've got it. If you have Safari, on the top of the page, hit "view", and then "show toolbar". That should do it.

I have a book that has been invaluable to me. It's by David Pogue. It is called, "Mac OSX Lion, the missing manual. The book that should have been in the box"

I have had a number of books in this series, (one for my iPad, and a former one for my old p.c.) I find them invaluable, although I should have checked when you first wrote your question.



http://www.davidpogue.com/
dalehileman
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2012 01:53 pm
@Phoenix32890,
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top of the page, hit "view", and then "show toolbar". That should do it.
Yes thanks most kindly Nix, it did it. However I swear when I had accessed it (“customize toolbar”) about 127 times in the past few days the url and “Reload page” icons were missing

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"Mac OSX Lion, the missing manual. The book that should have been in the box"
Thank you for that link. My No. 1 Son had acquired for me Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard by Robin Williams but I never have found it as useful as I had hoped, partly because the index is so scanty

Thanks once more
 

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