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Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 12:17 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Perhaps you could try using Google for once, to look these things up before coming here to discuss them?

It just kills me, that people can't be bothered to do even an iota of research before commenting.

Cycloptichorn


I'm familiar enough with the case to discuss it. And if anyone wants to provide any evidence to support their claims, I'll be happy to look at what they provide.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 12:21 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
To be lying, Shelly Zimmerman would have had to have told the judge that she either didn't know about the paypal account or told some lie about the amount it contained.

She basically told the prosecutors who to go to for exact information on the account and the prosecutors doctored their own transcripts to deceive the judge.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/06/13/zimmerman-prosecutions-selective-editing-misleading-the-court-shellie-perjury-charge-baseless/

Quote:
Zimmerman Prosecution’s Selective Editing – Misleading The Court – Shellie Perjury Charge Baseless
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 12:23 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
You don't escape from somebody by sucker punching them and then pouncing them and trying to beat them to death.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 12:25 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Perhaps you could try using Google for once, to look these things up before coming here to discuss them?

It just kills me, that people can't be bothered to do even an iota of research before commenting.

Cycloptichorn


I'm familiar enough with the case to discuss it. And if anyone wants to provide any evidence to support their claims, I'll be happy to look at what they provide.


Incidentally, Google is evil. They support sending innocent people to prison. And they store all your searches and let the entire world know what you've looked up.

I use DuckDuckGo for my search engine. They make a point of not sharing all your searches with the entire world.

http://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo

Be back later.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 05:14 pm
@gungasnake,
I find it interesting that your quotes ignore her other testimony.

Q: Are you aware of any financial means where you can assist in these costs?
A: um - not. not that I am aware of.

At the time of that statement she had transferred about $74,000 between accounts. She was clearly aware of the $74,000 since she was the one that did the transfer. Not only did she do the transfers, they made the transfers less than $10,000 so they wouldn't be reported to the government as required by law.

Are you willing to argue that Shellie was unaware of the money she had transferred? Do you think anyone other than mindless freepers will believe that argument?
parados
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 05:15 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Incidentally, Google is evil.

Then by all means stay ignorant of evidence. It really helps your argument. Drunk
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 06:43 pm
@parados,
I think you're reading something the wrong way.

The interesting story about Zimmermans and money is going to be how they divide the town of Sanford up between themselves and that police chief who got fired for doing the right thing originally.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 08:17 pm
The nature of the problem...

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 08:27 pm
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 08:57 pm
I've said all along that there'll come a day of awakening when American blacks will figure out how badly they're being fucked by the demoKKKrat party and a number of their asshole "leaders". This guy has plainly figured it out.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 09:05 pm
@oralloy,
Does duckduckgo have any sort of a facility for image search? I mean, I don't see it immediately...
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 09:57 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

I've said all along that there'll come a day of awakening when American blacks will figure out how badly they're being fucked by the demoKKKrat party and a number of their asshole "leaders". This guy has plainly figured it out.


The Democrats need to answer for their sin of selling victim culture to the blacks, but the blacks are free now and have free will. There buying into the story of their victimization and the resulting break-down of the black family is their own fault. The blacks are also the only ones who can fix what ails them. Both parties hinder progress with their playing racial politics....no one is pure here.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 05:06 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The Democrats need to answer for their sin of selling victim culture to the blacks, but the blacks are free now and have free will. There buying into the story of their victimization and the resulting break-down of the black family is their own fault. The blacks are also the only ones who can fix what ails them. Both parties hinder progress with their playing racial politics....no one is pure here.


True but the bulk of the problem is the dems and the real problem is the two-party system without benefit of runoffs which locks us into the present two parties without options. A nation like Italy with a dozen or so political parties can afford to have one or two of them go rogue, we can't, having one of our parties go rogue forces the other into unnatural positions just to stay alive and compete.

Needed is the list of reforms I've mentioned, the most major being instant runoff elections for all public offices. THAT would allow some third party to step up and replace one of the two major parties which had lost touch with reality or gone rogue.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 06:44 am
@gungasnake,
Shellie Zimmerman clearly lied under oath. There is no other way to read it. Or you could just ignore the facts like you usually do.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 07:18 am
@parados,
I've just put YOU on ignore, congratulations.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 07:37 am
@gungasnake,
Pretty soon the only posts you'll see will be Hawkeye's and your own.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 08:22 am
@DrewDad,
You too. There's only about five or six of your little cllique/clatch or whatever you call it, no big loss.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 08:24 am
What George Zimmerman ends up like minus the gun...

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/07/07/attackers-beat-man-family-begs-for-info/

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MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The family of a man brutally beaten and left for dead in Miami is begging for anyone who knows anything about the attack to come forward, so they can get his attackers off the street.

22 year old Rene Betancourt was found by his father last night, bleeding and beaten in his car parked near Jackson Memorial Hospital, He said he’s gone looking for his son when he hadn’t come home, and he believes Rene had tried to drive himself to the hospital after he was attacked.....
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 08:29 am
@DrewDad,
heh.

It is amazingly easier to read actual thoughts and ideas on threads where I can just glide over all those teeny-tiny (ignored) lines.

Joe(carry on)Nation

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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 07:24 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
I think you're reading something the wrong way.

The interesting story about Zimmermans and money is going to be how they divide the town of Sanford up between themselves and that police chief who got fired for doing the right thing originally.


Apparently the town can legally fire the police chief without cause, so the fact that he never did anything wrong does not give him any cause for legal action. It might be good to try to vote out the people who fired him at the next election however.
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