Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

@BillRM,

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LOL Strange very very very strange that you have no problem in the world considering the first investigators as being racists incompetent fools with zero proof of that fact

If I had said that, then you might be able to accuse me of it. But since I never said it perhaps you might want to take a different approach that doesn't prove you to be an ignorant fool.

You can find legal "experts" to disagree with about anything. Legal "experts" disagreed on the guilt of OJ. They disagreed on whether John Edwards should be charged and whether he is guilty. Using some experts to support your opinion sounds like a logical fallacy to me.

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@hawkeye10,

I love them trying to find any words in the 911 call that would allow them to brand him a racist and even get the Feds into the act.

The only problem is that he even had black friends who was brave enough to defend him on those grounds.

Too bad it is such a lovely and emotional story of a poor black kid being gun down by a white gun carrying racist for no reason on his way home from the 7/11.

A hoodlum attacking a crime watch volunteer and being kill as a result is not all that interesting even if it seems to follow the facts more closely then he was a victim of a racist.

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@parados,

If the first investigators did their jobs and found out there was no reason to charge Zimmerman a media driven campaign to have him arrested anyway should had carry no weight and there was no honest reason to appoint a special prosecutor in this case.

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@BillRM,

Because Zimmerman wasn't charged the first night is NOT evidence the investigators did their jobs and saw no reason to charge him. An autopsy wasn't conducted that first night. Interviews of other witnesses weren't completed that night. Most murder investigations take time. I can understand why they didn't arrest him that first night. It is the ongoing investigation that is in question here. You are questioning that investigation and appear to claim that no new facts were found out after the first night.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

A hoodlum attacking a crime watch volunteer and being kill as a result is not all that interesting
even if it seems to follow the facts more closely then he was a victim of a racist.

If a black sees the Grand Dragon of the KKK (presumably a racist)
and he jumps on the Dragon and starts beating the Dragon's head upon the sidewalk,
then the Dragon is fully within his moral and legal rights
to take out his handgun and kill his assailant.

No one 's opinions entitle anyone else to pound upon him.

David

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@parados,

Just as I never said she was lying just damn dishonest in bringing charges that the facts will not support but that was the reason she was appointed to bring charges no matter what in this case at least in my opinion that was why Scott appointed her.

There was no public outcry for a more complete investigation but for an arrest with the news giving the days since the shooting and still no arrest.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

If the first investigators did their jobs and found out there was no reason to charge Zimmerman a media driven campaign to have him arrested anyway should had carry no weight and there was no honest reason to appoint a special prosecutor in this case.

YES! That 's absolutely right.

David

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@BillRM,

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Just as I never said she was lying just damn dishonest

I see you are being dishonest about the meaning of the world lying.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Just as I never said she was lying just damn dishonest in bringing charges that the facts will not support but that was the reason she was appointed to bring charges no matter what in this case at least in my opinion that was why Scott appointed her.

There was no public outcry for a more complete investigation but for an arrest with the news giving the days since the shooting and still no arrest.

The arrest was driven by a hysterical, lynch mob mentality.

David

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@parados,

Sorry but do you have information that the investigation by the local police stop dead at the end of that night?

However the local police did not see any new reason or need to arrest Zimmerman even when the local police chief was force out.

LOL...............

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@BillRM,

Oh.. now you are arguing the investigation ended when the police chief stepped down. An interesting argument there BillRM. Just move the goal posts when you get your butt handed to you.

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@BillRM,

By the way Bill, how can you argue that a statement by the prosecutor is Bullshit and factually untrue then argue that you aren't saying she lied? I'm just curious how your mind works or doesn't work in this instance.

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@parados,

No lying is lying about facts known to you not the bringing of charges for other then legal reasons that is being dishonest.

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@parados,

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Oh.. now you are arguing the investigation ended when the police chief stepped down.

I was under the impression that it ended about a month b4 he stepped down.

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@BillRM,

The prosecutor stated specifically and on the record to reporters that the charges were based on the facts and not due to public pressure.

Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey said

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”We don’t prosecute by public pressure or petition. We prosecute cases on the relevant facts of each case and on the laws of the state of Florida.”

Tell me again, you aren't calling her a liar.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

parados wrote:
Oh.. now you are arguing the investigation ended when the police chief stepped down.
I was under the impression that it ended about a month b4 he stepped down.

Which would point to the police being incompetent if that was the case.

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@parados,

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investigation ended when the police chief stepped

???????????????????????????????????????????

No I was saying that even with the extra legal pressure on the police department such as removing the chief over the no arrest issue they still did not feel that they could honestly bring charges against Zimmerman.

That needed a special political appointed prosecutor to do.

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@parados,

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The prosecutor stated specifically and on the record to reporters that the charges were based on the facts and not due to public pressure.

If so then she is lying and you are right she is an out and out liar.

To think that she is not a liar you would have to consider all the local members of the police and the prosecutors was racists and or incompetents.

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@BillRM,

Yes and? The police can't bring the charges. They can only arrest until the prosecutor brings charges usually within 24 hours. When an arrest isn't made that night, then it moves to the prosecutor to make out an arrest warrant and take it to a judge. You are now arguing that proper procedure isn't the proper procedure.

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@BillRM,

So were you lying when you said she wasn't a liar or are you lying when you say she is a liar?

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