Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

WELL SAID!





David

He was 17 years old and taller then Zimmerman not a 14 year old teenager!!!!!

An I did no know that the person who was in the car that stop by me until he ID himself and express his concerns.



An what part of your ass did you pull that comment out of?

Are you reading this thread at all?

I was responding to the claim that Zimmerman was angry made by another poster.

Are you another one making up facts as I had not seen anything that would leave me to think that Zimmerman pull his out gun until he was on the ground with Trayvon trying to pound his head into the sideway.

Frankly in not having attack the crime watcher I have no idea if he was arm or not arm those it would not had surprise me if he was indeed carrying a firearm..

As I was working for the Federal government at the time I was not carrying my firearm but if I had been no one would had known unless and until I would feel my life was at risk.

Given that there is zero indication that Zimmerman was displaying his gun why do you think it is a good question?

As I had said in this website before I had have a woman get into my face and told me she was going to kill me in in fact follow me home and kill me and yet the young lady never had a clue she was threating an arm man.

Conceal carry mean conceal carry and the license does not allow you to display the weapon in any way.

ERRATUM:


"counseller" shud have been "counsellor".





David

Yes, EXCEPT that it is legal to do so IF
u r actually USING IT, in an act of self defense.

According to pollster Gary Glick, an estimated 2,5OO,OOO times a year,
Americans scare away criminal predators by the mere sight of a defensive gun.

In another century, I was among that 2,5OO,OOO number.





David

Yes David there is a good chance that Trayvon would had been alive now if before he decided to attacked Zimmerman he had been aware that Zimmerman was arm and just therefore kept walking.

The law is in Florida that you can not be openly arm however the owner of a local bar got around that by openly carrying a black power cap and ball civil war revolver that look like it would bring down a bear with one shot.

Black power firearms are not consider firearms under Florida law but it is one hell of an impressed weapon when you are thinking about robbing a bar owner.

So without any evidence you accuse the prosecutor of lying?

LOL Strange very very very strange that you have no problem in the world considering the first investigators as being racists incompetent fools with zero proof of that fact but a special prosecutor appointed by one of the most dishonest persons to hold the office of the Florida governorship in my life time we should show respect for!!!!!!!!!!!!

On top of that any numbers of legal experts was not impress with the paperwork given to the court supporting the murder charge by this prosecutor.

And your silly posting got two votes up beside so far.

How amazing.

First signs of a push back over this media driven campaign to hang Zimmerman and anyone who does not support the story of an evil white gun nut murdering an innocent black kid is starting to occur.

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CNN) -- City commissioners in Sanford, Florida, voted Monday to reject the proposed resignation of its embattled police chief, who has been under fire for the handling of the probe into Trayvon Martin's death in February.

Chief Bill Lee has been on paid leave since March 22, a day after the commission expressed a lack of confidence in him because of the case. He remains so after the commission's decision, with Capt. Darren Scott continuing to serve as acting chief.

George Zimmerman, who has said he killed the 17-year-old Martin in self-defense, was not arrested after being questioned by police the night of the shooting. Arrested weeks later after a special prosecutor was assigned to the case, he was released from jail early Monday and hours later entered a not guilty plea.

Earlier Monday, the city announced in a statement that a separation agreement had been reached with Lee to resign. If it was approved by the City Commission, it would have taken effect at midnight.

But by a 3-2 vote, the commission opted not to accept the proposed deal, which would have permanently dismissed Lee from the job and given him a severance package. Two commissioners had questioned the fairness of Lee losing his job, while Mayor Jeff Triplett said he preferred to wait possibly several months for the results of an investigation into Lee and his department.

Taaffe: Websites cover Zimmerman bond "I'm not ready to have him come back and run the Police Department, but I don't know if I'm ready for this either," Triplett said, who sided with the majority to reject the resignation.

Benjamin Crump, a lawyer for Martin's family, criticized the commission for not letting Lee step down.

"Sanford residents deserve quality leadership in law enforcement who will handle investigations fairly for all people," he said. "If Chief Bill Lee recognized that his resignation would help start the healing process in Sanford, city leadership should have accepted it in an effort to move the city forward."

City Manager Norton N. Bonaparte told CNN that "moving the city forward" is a priority, and something that he hoped might have been expedited by making Lee's departure final.

During Monday's meeting, Bonaparte explained that he and Lee had "agreed to" the resignation, after Lee "decided that he can no longer serve as police chief."

But Randy Jones, a commissioner, pointed to other parts of the agreement stating Lee was "willing, ready and able" to remain on as chief, hadn't been found to have done anything wrong and was resigning on Bonaparte's "recommendation."

Added Patty Mahany, another commissioner supportive of Lee, "What did the chief do wrong? I mean, tell us."

Bonaparte said an interim chief -- in place of Scott, the current acting chief -- could be in place early next week.

The case has drawn intense media attention, with Sanford residents and many civil rights leaders from outside central Florida criticizing the Police Department for not immediately arresting Zimmerman, 28, after he shot the unarmed teenager.

HLN: Zimmerman wife talks publicly for the first time

Zimmerman is now free and awaiting trial, after making bail and leaving the John E. Polk Correctional Facility in Sanford at 12:05 a.m. Monday.

"He's doing well. He's very glad to be out, trying to get settled in, still worried about his safety ... talking to his family and feeling much better than being in (jail)," his lawyer Mark O'Mara told CNN later Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-attorney-says-apology-ill-timed-114051404.html

Unless I miss my guess the timing was irrelevant, what these folks object to is any words from George which go against their story line that George is evil incarnate. They are also against any treatment of George which goes against their desire to see him treated as evil incarnate.

DAMN THAT CONSTITUTION!

I was wondering about the jury.

Specifically, I was wondering if the "stand your ground" law and the lack of original prosecution occurred because the state is, broadly speaking, very pro-gun and very pro killing people one sees as suspicious.

If so, I would imagine the jury might very well reflect this and thus be unlikely to convict.

Does anyone know the broad trend in Zimmerman's state?

The jury would be unlikely to convict because the law instructs them that they are not to convict if they think it is likely that the accused was defending themselves. Of course if the law is followed in this case it is highly probable that a judge will throw this case out before it gets to a jury for the same reason, and the state can forget about trying to get even manslaughter.

Now you're pre-empting the jury.

Also, unless you believe members of juries become tabula rasa upon which only the facts of the case and the law as it is presented to them is writ, people's pre-existing beliefs and sympathies can greatly influence a decision. It's very interesting to look up accounts of jury deliberations and why they came to the decision they did.

Right, because according to reports this is how Florida law works in Stand your Ground cases. The law tries to make sure that gun users who defend themselves are never subjected to a jury, and in case they are it instructs the jury that they are not to convict. I will yield to an expert saying that I am wrong, but I have now read this in too many places to dismiss it. I think we have somewhere linked to reports which show a explosion of cases being ruled justified killings after stand your ground laws are passed, which is another indication that I am correct in my understanding.

BTW...despite many reports of the locals saying "we just wanted an arrest, what ever the justice system decides is fine with us" I expect riots if the courts decide that George was justified in killing Trayvon. The idea that the feds would be a backstop and get George for human rights abuses on the grounds of racism if Florida fails to get their man now seems to be pretty much dead, due to the complete lack of evidence that George is a racist.

Yes, or simply NOT GET PHYSICAL with him.
That is all he had to do. He thawt that he coud get away with it.




I have a hunch that u mean black powder firearms, Bill.
Black power usually means something else.

LOL......

Maybe u mean the firearms preferred
by those that pursue black power.