Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2012 02:30 am

By Alex Newman
April 17, 2012

Despite Trayvon Martin’s now infamous killing in late February,
a new survey revealed that the vast majority of Americans
continue to support the use of deadly force if needed in self-defense —
even outside of the home. Laws supporting the carrying of concealed weapons
have overwhelming public support as well, according to the Ipsos/Reuters poll
released last week

A whopping 87 percent of respondents — including 85 percent of self-described
Democrats — said they support laws legalizing citizens use of deadly force
to protect themselves from danger in their own homes.
Less than 10 percent opposed such laws. In public places, more than two thirds
said the law should allow people to protect themselves from danger with deadly force.

“People have always thought in this country that they have the right to defend themselves
from danger or from harm,” Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson told The New American in a phone interview.
“We still see that even in public places … with deadly force if necessary.”

When it comes to citizens to bearing arms, 75 percent of those surveyed support laws
for concealed carry of weapons
. Even 72 percent of self-identified Democrats expressed support
for gun-rights on the issue
. One reason for the results might be the realization that police cannot
stop all crime: according to the poll, almost everybody knows that.

Supporters of the Second Amendment celebrated the survey findings,
but the impressive collection of data was barely noticed by the press.
Reuters, which commissioned the survey, did produce one article dealing with the results.
For the most part, however, the establishment media completely failed to report the findings.

"The controversial 2005 Florida law grants immunity to people who use deadly force in self defense,"
claimed Andrew Longstreth in an April 4 "analysis" for Reuters, for example and a Reuters reporter wrote
on March 23: “The shakeup at the state level was more surprising as Gov. Rick Scott … formed a task force
to review Florida's controversial ‘Stand Your Ground’ law.”

Still, analysts are not expecting corrections any time soon.
After the shooting of Martin attracted national attention, anti-
Second Amendment activists even tried to pin the blame on the NRA.
“This tragic shooting represents the National Rifle Association's vision
for America,” claimed Brady Campaign boss Dan Gross in a statement.
Another Brady executive, Vice President Dennis Henigan, said:
"We have called Florida the NRA's armed utopia."

Based on the recent poll results, the demonization strategy has been a failure.
More than two thirds of those surveyed held a favorable view of the
National Rifle Association (NRA) — including about 55 percent of Democrats.
"Regardless of how others try to distort our position, the general public knows
where we stand," NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam was quoted as saying.
"It shows the failure of the continuing efforts of many to try to discredit
the National Rifle Association."

Meanwhile, efforts to link strong protections of gun rights and self-defense laws
to violence and crime have accelerated. After the fatal shooting in Florida,
victim-disarmament advocates, repeatedly attempted to blame the state’s
relatively looser restrictions for the killing.

“Trayvon's life has been lost not because of an accident, but because of
the easy access to a gun by a violent person permitted by a state with
weak gun laws,” Brady boss Gross claimed in the same statement.

The facts, however, paint a much different picture.
Jurisdictions with few to no infringements on the right to keep and bear arms — Alaska
and Vermont, for instance — have among the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.
Places with the most severe gun control like Washington D.C. and Chicago, meanwhile, have among the highest

In Florida, media personalities and assorted anti-liberty activists took aim at the popular “Stand Your Ground” law,
which has been enacted in more than 20 states with broad popular support.
It essentially allows victims to defend themselves from imminent danger with deadly force if necessary.
The law states: "A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity ... has no duty to retreat and has the right
to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes
it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent
the commission of a forcible felony."

Following the controversy over the law, Florida Gov. Rick Scott formed a task force to review it and offer recommendations.
Its supporters in the legislature and among the public have stood firm in defense of the law, but anti-gun groups are seeking
to have it repealed. "We are at a 40-year low in our crime rate in our state," Gov. Scott said about the state’s firearm laws.
"From a public safety standpoint we are absolutely heading in the right direction."

While most of the recent poll’s findings were celebrated by gun-rights supporters, some of the results were less than encouraging.
The majority of Americans, for instance, support some regulation — though pollsters did not ask whether respondents differentiated
between state and federal restrictions.

Most participants also expressed support for limits on automatic weapons like machine guns, which for those without a license
were essentially banned by the federal government in 1934. Restrictions on the amount of firearms a person should be able
to purchase in a given time period also found strong support. Still, analysts noted that the poll results revealed a wide
disconnect between the Democratic Party establishment and regular Democrats, who broadly support the Second Amendment.
The survey also showed that the furor over self-defense rights failed to translate into genuine controversy about
the right to keep and bear arms.

The poll, conducted between April 9 and April 12, included 650 Republicans, 752 Democrats, and 520 independents, Ipsos said.
According to the firm, it has a credibility rating of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.

[All emfasis has been added by David.]
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2012 04:08 am
Too bad. Youre missing another great sunrise while you get off on your daily sermons
Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2012 09:36 pm
farmerman wrote:
Too bad. Youre missing another great sunrise while you get off on your daily sermons
I 've never been a big sunrise person, farmer.
If I have occasion to go out for a drive or a walk at dawn,
I wear a broad brim on my hat to defend my eyes from intrusive solar radiation.
( I am a defensively minded person. )

When I had a law office, 1 of my legal secretaries asked me if I were "a vampire,"
judging from my keeping the curtains in my office drawn to stop sunlite.
I preferred incandescent electric lite.
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