If we were all color blind... ?

@fresco,

Research on dolphins suggests that they have self-awareness, use concepts and possess the ability for abstract reasoning. But I wonder how much effort has been put into actually communicating with them beyond training them to respond to rewards of fish.

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@Cyracuz,

Communication implies "languaging behaviour" acquired in a common social context. That context may be delimited by species specific physiology.

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@fresco,

There is that.
Assuming that dolphins are capable of social interaction (which they seem to be), could such a common social context be established? Even with alien life forms such a context would have to be established for communication. Or perhaps working out communication would establish the context.

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In science fiction the more exotic the alien the more fascinating the story.

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@JLNobody,

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In science fiction the more exotic the alien the more fascinating the story.

Sometimes.

But then there is a gem like Rendezvous with Rama ...a truly fascinating story that tells more than most humans ever want to consider.

And not an exotic alien in sight!

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@Frank Apisa,

Got to see it. Netflix?

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@Frank Apisa,

Got to see it. Netflix?

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@JLNobody,

I would suggest the book only.

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@fresco,

Thanks. You do look after your friends. Very Happy

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For thousands more years the mighty ships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the first planet they came across--which happened to be the Earth -- where due to a terribble miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was accidently swallowed by a small dog

Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's
Guide to the Galaxy"

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@JLNobody,

Actually, it never was made into a film. In any case, Fresco is absolutely correct. It is a story that has to be read, because the point it makes is so important. In any case, I am not sure it would make a very good movie.

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@Frank Apisa,

Sounds like a good book. I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip.

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@fresco,

Did anyone read the novel, the Giver?

There, the 'elders' tried to genetically engineer colorblind people. It was to restrict emotion in a controlled world.

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@fresco,

Being colorblind would suck! No more cool tattoos, or awesome outfits. No reason to paint your nails or dye your hair a totally awesome color. No BluRay because TV and Movies are gonna be boring black and white like they were a long long time ago. No coloring, drawing or painting. Everything would be just super dull and mega BORING.

I had to read "The Giver" in 6th grade! It was a pretty good book. Kinda weird though. Smile

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@GracieGirl,

You might like "the Chrysalids" by John Wyndham. Its about kids born with ESP (extra sensory perception) in a world hostile to anybody "different".

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@Chaoschick,

You know, I read that book so long ago that I couldn't remember what it was called or who wrote it. I just remembered some parts of the story and the general feeling it created in me. I've been wondering about it for years, and suddenly someone just comes out with it at random. Smile

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@Setanta,

You are proving a point. Some people are stuck in their own world with blinders on. Like you. Try and get a new perspective, look around, get out of your own "fishbowl" and look at the world from someone else's view. We know how color works. The idea of 'being blind" is to imagine a world without "race" to define color. Systems of oppression have used race and color to define who they think is superior for centuries. I believe that if it was not race or color, humans would find other ways to discriminate against each other.

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@fresco,

fresco wrote:

If the human race were genetically color blind, how would it effect our concepts of "reality".
This is a potentially interesting question with respect to the "embodied cognition" hypothesis discussed on the "independent reality" thread.
(For the purposes of this discussion, I define "color blind" as being confined to the "black-grey-white" continuum)

Its very difficult to quantify because it's so engrained. Such as traffic lights? In a black, gray and white world that's all you have to pick from, they would probably function different.

Or painting of homes or walls. Three choices of shades between black and white don't offer much variety.

I think many things would be different, even language would be different. Style of clothing, shoes, art, movies, ext would all be different.

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@Cyracuz,

Cyracuz wrote:

This kid is not color blind. He had his eyes removed at a very young age because of cancer.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49dS76KhGc[/youtube]

Why the apostrophe?

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If nobody ever had colour vision, people couldn't be "colour blind". Just saying.

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