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Historical Trend? Caucus News: Paul Attracting Iowa Independents and Democrats

 
 
Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2012 09:52 pm
The last Des Moines Register poll before Tuesday's voting in Iowa shows former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and Texas Congressman Ron Paul in a virtual tie for first place and three other candidates competing for a third-place finish before the battle for the Republican nomination moves east to New Hampshire for the first-in-the-nation primary one week later. It also shows Paul well ahead of the rest of the field in attracting Independents to his candidacy. A CNN poll released last week, meanwhile, has drawn criticism for leaving out Democrats and Independents and likely underestimating Paul's strength with caucus voters.

The Des Moines Register poll, released Saturday night, shows Romney with 24 percent and Ron Paul the choice of 22 percent in the Register survey of likely Republican caucus participants. Romney, who was the leader in the first Register poll in June, appears to be enjoying a comeback after Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who has since dropped out, and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich surged to the lead in the paper's October and November polls, respectively. Gingrich, the choice of 25 percent in November, has dropped to 12 percent in the latest survey, putting him in fourth place behind the rising Rick Santorum. The former Senator from Pennsylvania has gone from six percent in November to 15 percent in the December survey, conducted last Tuesday through Friday by Selzer & Co. of Des Moines. Texas Governor Rick Perry has also moved into double digits with a showing of 11 percent, while Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, an Iowa native who edged out Ron Paul by only 152 votes in last August's Ames Straw Poll, dropped from 22 percent in June to 7 percent in the latest poll. Former Utah Governor and Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, who has focused his campaign on the New Hampshire primary, is holding steady at one percent in Iowa.

Despite the volatility in the polls, the results show a steady rise for Paul, who has emerged in the last few weeks as the leading challenger to Romney, the early frontrunner whose record in liberal Massachusetts has left many of the party activists looking for a conservative alternative to the former Bay State Governor. The choice of only seven percent of likely caucus voters in the Register's June survey, Paul moved up to 12 percent in October and 18 percent in November. His 22 percent in the latest poll puts him in a statistical dead heat with Romney, since the two-point difference is well within the margin of error.

The fluctuation in numbers may reflect widespread last-minute decision making on the part of likely caucus voters, and at least some of Santorum's surge may be coming at Paul's expense. Data from just the last two days of the Register's four-day poll show Santorum moving into second-place, with Paul falling into fourth place, CNN reported.

Even in the past week, separate polls have shown different leaders among the top contenders in the Hawkeye state. A Public Policy Polling released on December 27 showed Paul still in the lead with a four-point advantage over Romney, 24-20 percent. Polling procedures have also come into question, with the latest CNN poll having drawn media criticism over its methodology. The “quirk” in the survey, said Nate Silver in his New York Times political blog, was that the CNN poll questioned only registered Republicans. Because Independents and even Democrats may vote in the Republican caucuses simply by changing their registration at the door, the pollsters overlooked a large number of likely caucus voters.

The results may have underrepresented Paul's strength, since the maverick Republican does better than the other GOP candidates in appealing to non-Republican voters. The Register poll, for example, shows Paul, at 42 percent, far ahead of all the Republican candidates among Independent voters, with Romney a distant second at 19 percent. Public Policy Polling showed Paul beating Romney 39-12 percent among Democrats and Independents combined.

About 15 percent of Iowans participating in the Republican caucuses in 2008 identified themselves as either Independents or Democrats, Silver noted, and the Public Policy Polling data was based on an estimate that 24 percent of those voting at the GOP gatherings this time will be non-Republicans. The latest Washington Post/ABC News factored in an estimate of 18 percent. Both could be on the low side. Unlike 2008, when Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton led a field of Democrats competing in Iowa, the lack of any serious competition for Obama this year makes it likely that significantly larger numbers of Democrats and independents will avail themselves of the opportunity to vote for or against Republican hopefuls. “There is room to debate what the right number is,” wrote Silver, “but it will certainly not be zero, as the CNN poll assumes.”

Paul is likely to benefit the most from the crossover of Democrats unhappy with Obama and with the stagnant economy. As Paul West of the Los Angeles Times observed on Friday, Paul's organized campaign in Iowa has been distributing leaflets encouraging both Independents and Democrats to become Republicans “for a day.” They are being urged to vote for the anti establishment, libertarian candidate as a way to bring real change to Washington. Iowa voters who believe that change is overdue appear to be open to that invitation.

“We're doing all we can to reach out to these disillusioned Americans many of whom, regardless of ideology are Iowa voters," said Iowa Coalitions Director David Rudnick. “America voted for a peace candidate in 2008 and Ron Paul is the best option to appeal to that independent demographic since, he is the only peace candidate.”

Terry Hout of Osceola, an Independent who has never voted in a caucus before, now calls his 2008 vote for Obama a mistake. His wife, Cheryl, agrees and plans to join her husband in voting for Paul on Tuesday.

"We're looking for something new to revive the country," she told the Times. "We're so close to losing our whole country. China owns us. They could just walk right in and take us. It's scary."

Update: Later in the day after this article was published, PPP released a new Iowa poll.
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 12:06 pm
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Iowa GOP Puts Santorum Ahead By 34 Votes, But Result 'Unresolved'
January 19, 2012
by Mark Memmott - NPR

The first-in-the-nation Iowa Republican presidential caucuses produced no clear winner, the Iowa Republican Party has confirmed.

While its recanvassing of the nearly 1,774 precincts where ballots were cast on Jan. 3 has put former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum 34 votes ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — a reversal of what we thought were their finishes — the party says it can't definitively say who won because it can't find the results from eight of the precincts.

The party has put its new results online. You can download them here.

On caucus night, we ended with word that Romney was eight votes ahead of Santorum.

(Note: earlier, and in a "news alert" sent by NPR.org, we used the word "recount" to describe what the state party has done. NPR's Don Gonyea says the more accurate term is "recanvassing" because the state party officials are just now "certifying" the result — and a recount only happens, if ever, after certification.)

Our original post:

Rick Santorum has ended up 34 votes ahead of Mitt Romney after a recanvassing of the results from the Jan. 3 Iowa Republican presidential caucuses, The Des Moines Register is reporting.

But, the newspaper adds, Iowa GOP officials say that results from eight of Iowa's 1,774 precincts "will never be certified" because they're missing — meaning the outcome remains basically unresolved, as the Register's headline says. Or, as one Republican official tells the Register, it's going to be viewed as a "split decision."

The Iowa Republican Party is due to officially release the results of its second look at results from the nearly 122,000 paper ballots at 9:15 a.m. ET.

When the long evening ended on Jan. 3, the preliminary count showed Romney (a former Massachusetts governor) eight votes ahead of Santorum (a former Pennsylvania senator).

The result was spun several ways: for Romney, it was a "victory" because he had not campaigned hard in the state until the final weeks before the caucuses; for Santorum, it was a "victory" because he had been far behind in the polls just days before the voting; for Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), who came in a strong third, it was a "victory" because he had shown again that he had a strong following; for others, such as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, it was a "defeat" because they trailed well behind.

Watch It's All Politics for more.

Update at 7:58 a.m. ET. More Confirmation:

The Associated Press now says it too has been told by "Republican officials, speaking on condition of anonymity" about the results.

Update at 7:43 a.m. ET. Romney's Reaction:

In a written statement, The Associated Press says, Romney has called the result a "virtual tie" and has praised Santorum's "strong performance."

Update at 7:05 a.m. ET. The Numbers:

For those keeping count, the Register says the recanvassing reduced both candidates' numbers. Santorum's total shrank by 168 votes, to 29,839. Romney's total shrank by 210 votes, to 29,805.

The Iowa Republican Party says it will be posting the numbers here.
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