@Thomas,
Quote:Thomas wrote:
Fido wrote:There is plenty of nonsense, even in the metaphysics of Kant...
Is this supposed to be an attack on Kant or a vindication of nonsense in philosophy? I can't tell from the way you're phrasing this.
Most of the nonsense is in metaphysics, and not in philosophy, per se...
Quote:Fido wrote:The fact is, that culture is knowledge, and much of that we accept at face value, as given to us... It is not because anything is reasonable that it is acceptable...
That's a red herring. To realists, reality is reality, whether we accept it or not. From their perspective, it's perfectly sound to suppose that some claims about the world may be universally
accepted as true without actually
being true. Accordingly, anti-realists cannot refute realists by pointing out what people
accept as true. The observation is simply irrelevant to the thesis that anti-realists seek to rebut.
Realism is simply a form of idealism with idealism denied... Put another way, reality is our idea of reality whether we like it or not... They three levels of reality are: Existence, which we cannot conceive of, that is none the less quasi conceived of as a moral form, or a transendent concept, which is no concept at all... Reality is the sum of objective physical forms that we can conceive of, though it also includes all that is beyond our grasp by way of transendent concepts and moral forms, including all within the sphere of human experience... And truth, is all that we think we can verify, including all physical forms and concepts... Realists are those most Naive, in the sense of the word coming from the same root as natural, people in the world; and yet they do not seem ever to be aware that when they say: The world is real whether I conceive of it or not, that they are projecting their conceptions into a time, and a space without reference points, that is, to a point and time without meaning, and so, without reality in which to be real...Life is the ultimate judge of meaning, and for anything to be real it must be possible to conceive of it as a physical form, and so we find ourselves as physical forms animated by a spirit that can only be conceived of as a moral form trying to jduge the reality of reality from a basis of unreality, as life is, a certain meaning without true being... So I hardly think of it as a red herring... The question about reality as posed is a trap... It is never a question of what is reality... Just as with life, it is not a question of being, but of what is the meaning of that being as we perceive it...